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Published: November 17, 2008

NEW YORK — What's good for General Motors, so the saying goes, is good for the country.

Whether or not one agreed with this bit of conventional wisdom as a guide for formulating policy, there's no doubt that there was an era when the health of GM was perhaps the best barometer one could find for the overall state of the United States economy — an era that reached its apex in the post-World War II years.

Is the old maxim still true at a time when GM's stock is trading at or near 65-year lows and CEO Rick Wagoner has gone to the federal government, hat in hand, asking for a bailout?

Part of the answer rests on the reality that GM and its fellow "Big Three" automakers, Ford and Chrysler, still employ about 250,000 Americans, many in parts of the U.S. already hard-hit economically. Throw in the subsidiary employment of auto-parts manufacturers and related industries, and you're looking at millions of jobs in all.

And part rests on the perception that to let GM fail would be to bid an irrevocable farewell to America's once-proud and peerless manufacturing base. In economics, as in politics, perception is often reality. In addition to the job losses it would entail, the failure of GM would likely darken the public sense of gloom about the economy, further eroding consumer confidence and thereby deepening the recession most economists say is already upon us.

For now, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has stated that any help the government might give to struggling automakers won't come from the $700 billion bailout fund, created by Congress last month. Up until now, with the exception of the insurance company AIG (which became a necessary special case due to its huge holdings in toxic credit derivatives), payouts from the fund have gone only to financial institutions; Treasury fears that helping auto manufacturers would establish a precedent that would lead to failing companies from all sectors demanding a piece of the bailout pie.

As the Democratically controlled Congress works on a separate bailout for automakers, two things seem worth considering.

The first is that automakers, unlike many companies, can't just declare bankruptcy as a strategy to regroup, reorganize and re-emerge as stronger entities. The reason why is simple: Studies have shown that the great majority of consumers won't buy a car from a manufacturer in bankruptcy. After all, would you plunk down thousands of dollars for a vehicle you couldn't be sure of getting serviced or finding parts for in a year or two? There is a degree to which GM and its brethren are a special case, in that bankruptcy could essentially equal death.

The second is that the U.S. automakers have, for years now, been spending big sums of money to lobby against the strengthening of Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards and to fight in court against individual states, such as California, that have sought to impose tougher standards of their own. With 2-0/20 hindsight, it seems evident that, had these manufacturers dedicated resources instead to making more fuel-efficient cars, they might not have found themselves in the predicament they landed in after prices at the pump skyrocketed.

Bailing out automakers, like bailing out Wall Street, can raise as many questions as it answers. In both cases, it seems, there is the overarching question of whether we can protect the overall economy from the mistakes of the past while preventing a replay in the future. One way may be for taxpayers to ask for something in return for the checks they are being asked to write and the loans they are being asked to guarantee.

Dan Rather is a columnist with Hearst Newspapers.








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Whit, none of that matters. Their biz model is broke, $ from you and I will only postpone "when" they go out of business.

It doesn't matter is you are "making good time" if you are going in the wrong direction.
-- Posted by John Engrem on Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 8:34 am EST

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For the Auto Companies that for years have got kick backs from thhe Big Oil Companies to keep the gas mileage down , where are they now to help them out ????
-- Posted by K C on Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 4:00 pm EST

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You know the phrase, "You couldn't pay me to live there"? Detroit's factory workers live there. They don't have the beauty of the Green Mountains around them. But they live and work there for the money, for wages and benefits sufficient to lead a middle-class life - nothing more than that. It's the unions that have granted them this.

Have the auto executives been stupid? Sure, but no stupider than the public which has bought SUVs and pickups when smaller cars have always been the wiser, more responsible choice for all but tradesmen who need trucks. The current crisis isn't from that, though, but from a Wall Street meltdown that has nothing to do with oil or manufacturing, and everything to do with a ponzi scheme run by bankers.

To surrender auto manufacturing to the Japanese because of massive fraud by Wall Street investment banks makes no sense at all. To bust the unions, which are essential to maintaining decent lives for those who put up with living in essentially ugly places like Detroit to keep our essential factories running, would also be rank stupidity.
-- Posted by Whit Blauvelt on Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 9:02 am EST

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GM pays employees w/benefits about 50% more than Toyota, why? bad negotiating. File chapter 11, the GM stays in biz, contracts are redone and they have a workable business model.
The world is flat. When something is on FIRE do not add GAS!
-- Posted by John Engrem on Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 7:54 am EST

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None None and Clifford and other self-righteous UAW union-bashers out there:

I recently requested and obtained information from the Vermont Dept. of Tourism and Marketing, regarding overnight tourist visits from U.S. Domestic and International visitors. I wanted to see the relation between Vermont tourism and the U.S. States that have Big 3 Auto company presence.

Most of the tourists come to Vermont from New England and NY, NJ and PA (not surprising). But of the remaining tourists, the estimates from Midwestern manufacturing states is nothing to sneeze at. According to the spreadsheet I obtained from the State of Vermont, approximately 44,200 person-trips were from Michigan during 2006. Given the northern climate, the State of Michigan (about 10 Million people) has MANY skiiers (I am one of them). You can write off the other states at your own peril. Vermont is too dependent upon tourism, so Vermont's economic recovery will most likely lag the recoveries of other U.S. States.

By the way, I have brought in about 21 skiier-days annually for the last 12 years from visiting relatives from Michigan. So I do my part to support the Vermont economy. I hope Vermonters will reciprocate and consider buying GM, Ford and Chrysler products.

Remember the years right after 9/11? GM, Ford and Chyrsler went full steam and manufactured and sold vehicles at deep discounts. Unlike the airline companies that held their hand out in Washington DC after 9/11, the car companies helped jump start the U.S. economy. Unlike some airline companies that had filed for bankruptcy and dumped their pension obligations on the U.S. Goverment (Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation or PBGC), the Big 3 Auto firms kept their promise to both Salaried and Union employees and retirees. Did President Bush ever thank GM, Ford and Chrysler for helping the U.S. economy recover in 2002-2003? NO, I don't remember the President ever acknowledging the help of the Big 3 Auto firms. If GM, Ford and Chrysler are forced to declare bankruptcy, the pension obligations will most likely fall onto the PBGC; in other words, the U.S. Taxpayers.

I am not necessarily for bailing out any industry with our tax dollars. We are now bailing out Wall Street. About 2-3 years ago, the Wall Street ratings companies gave General Motors "junk bond" status. At the time, it seemed reasonable to me. I watched a Congressional hearing 2 weeks ago on C-SPAN about these same Wall Street ratings firms giving AAA Ratings to Securitized Mortgage Investments and other very complex and fraudulent investment schemes (that got sold overseas, since they couldn't sell these toxic investments in the U.S.). The internal whistleblowers either got fired, demoted or were told to basically shut up. So Standard and Poor's, Moody's, et al, gave AAA ratings to toxic sub-prime mortgages and other garbage investments, but they really stuck it to GM (including the once-profitable GMAC). In my mind, these actions by these Wall Street Rating companies are "criminal". There should be further investigations in to the Wall Street Ratings firms, once "hear-no-evil, see-no-evil" George W. Bush goes back to Crawford, TX.

I have lived in Vermont for 13 years, but am a proud Michigander. I worked for GM and Ford combined for 12-years. I was a salaried employee (non-union). I can count 14 family members between my family and my wife's family who work in the auto industry or who have retired from GM. Most of them are NOT union workers (engineers, accountants, draftsman, designers, etc). Not everyone who works for GM, Ford and Chrysler are union members.

I have always been a critic of GM, Ford and Chrysler for not producing more fuel-efficient vehicles. If that was the ONLY factor involved, I would then have to say "NO" to any kind of bailout or loan program.

But there is a LOT more to this than just MPG / CAFE averages, or even unions...

Besides the bad behavior of the Wall Street Ratings agencies, there is the Oil Speculation by Goldman Sachs, Citicorp, et al. Basically, the same companies that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson wants to bail out (invest in banks), are the ones who drove up the gas and oil prices in 2008 to over $4 a gallon. Once people thought that oil and gas prices would continue to go higher, they stopped buying vehicles (yes, there is the whole housing / mortgage crisis in there as well).

In addition, there is Health Care. The largest Health Care provider in the State of Michigan is GM, Ford, Chrysler and parts supplier firms. For those who are fans of keeping health care in the private market, fine, I understand the arguments on either side. But what happens when you wish GM, Ford and Chrysler "adios"? Maybe your own Health Care premiums will go up (nationwide)? Think about it.

It isn't just the Union workers, it is the Salaried workers as well. It is not just the Big 3 Auto firms, it is the hundreds, maybe thousands of related supplier, engineering firms and dealerships. It is not just Michigan, it is Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Wisconsin, etc. It is even Ontario and Quebec, Canada that are part of the North American Auto Industry.

If you look further at the Vermont Dept. of Tourism and Marketing data for the above mentioned U.S. States and Canadian Provinces, you will see how dependent Vermont's economy is on these other state's economies. Canada provided 644,000 Overnight Visits to Vermont in 2006 (11.2% of total tourist visits).

I am saving to buy another General Motors vehicle in the next 12 months. For what I lost in my 401K due to Wall Street speculation, greed and corruption, I could have bought another vehicle or two.
-- Posted by Ron Pulcer on Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 9:01 pm EST

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Let the UNION bail them out !!!!! Paying for their own employee pension would more than allow the company to flourish. The UNIONS are the demise of our industry in this country and the UNION dictated public education system is taking a toll on the already overtaxed homeowner.........
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 7:34 am EST

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For years and years we've watched the autoworker's union and the "big three" wrangle through contract negotiations which seem to always result in higher wages and better benefits for the autoworkers, and higher vehicle prices for consumers. Consequently, the debt-load which the "big three" must now service for retired autoworkers is huge. Is it any wonder that they seem to advertise nothing but the largest or most expensive models they offer?

For years and years we've also watched the autoworker's union declare their support for the democratic party and candidates during presidental elections and it's now becoming obvious why. Whether they knew it or not, whether they like it or not, the democratic party has a contract with the autoworker unions (and the "big-three" as well) and it's now time to ante up.

Just what problem is the bailout supposed to solve? What's broken within the auto industry that an infusion of capital will fix? If a bailout will result in a more streamlined and efficient manufacturing process which builds low-cost and hyper-efficient vehicles which consumers can afford, then I'm all for it. What I'm NOT in favor of is supporting private sector retiree's with tax payer money.
-- Posted by Clifford Morris on Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 7:24 am EST

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