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Published: March 1, 2009

The president was in Peoria last week at the Caterpillar manufacturing plant, where 10,000 employees are scheduled to be laid off. He was drumming his (Congress designed and packaged) "stimulation bill." Mr. Obama allowed how "Jim" said the stimulation bill would soon put people back to work at the plant.

But rhetoric met reality: "Jim," CAT CEO, then came to the podium and politely corrected Mr. Obama's oratorical flourish; CAT is not expecting to re-employ anyone anytime soon – not until sometime in 2010.

There is no doubt that President Obama has an excellent public relations team. That's how he got elected: speechifying; exciting the minions with "change" and "hope." But not much has changed. It's politics as usual – Clinton redux – Summers, Hillary and Rahm, now there's hope.

An easy bone tossed to bloggers: Guantanamo. But will it be so? Probably not. While many who were rounded up should not have been taken there, what do you now do with those who deserved to be? Mr. Obama has put off to 2010 to answer.

The more we see of President Obama, the more we understand just how limited his actual experience in the world outside of politics really is, just how captive he really is of the "business as usual" that he vowed to "change."

William Kevan

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READER COMMENTS


OJ says, "Come on Notta, Christian, and all my fine Liberal Friends, what do you say about the Democrat Party now."

Speaking only for myself, OJ, I say I LOVE IT! I like it so much I've actually considered joining up ... but I quickly rejected that idea.

By the way, OJ, I am not your friend and you are not John McCain so please stop trying to imitate him. That kind of 1950s nonsense wasn't very attractive coming from the elderly, doddering and now deposed former GOP candidate and it's even less attractive coming from you.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sun, Mar 8, 2009, 12:00 am EST

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You are 100% correct Christian and the fiasco is all THEIRS and no one elses.They have FULL CREDIT and Thank You for making acknowledgment of that fact.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 9:47 pm EST

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It just doesn't end.

"Geithner's Top Deputy Pick Withdraws From Consideration

Nazareth's withdrawal from consideration comes as critics say Geithner's lacks the senior staff he needs to make critical decisions about the financial crisis. Not one of his top 17 deputies has been named, let alone confirmed."

Even though

"Without senior leadership, lower-level Treasury employees can't make decisions or represent the government in crucial conversations with banks and others."

The kid in the Candy Store keeps spending money, like ther eis no tomorrow.

You Democrats must bve so proud of your Messiah. In 6 weeks he has spent more than Bush spent in 4 years fighting in TWO Battlefronts. LOL Who you all going to blame now? Bush? LOL
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 9:42 pm EST

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What do I say about The Democratic Party now ?
I say that The Democrats are in charge of The U.S. House,
The U.S. Senate, and The Presidency.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 9:02 pm EST

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In July the Democrats passed the $350 Billion Bank Bailout
a few months later the $700 Billion Wallstreet Bailout and then the $25 Billion Auto Bailouts which was followed in January with a $887 Billion Dollar Bailout and then just this week Obama signed a SPENDING BILL for $418 Billion that was loaded with 8000 EARMARKS that he swore time after time on the campaign trail he would never pass.


NOW http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=9955951

"Associated Press - March 5, 2009 6:13 PM ET

Senate leaders are working to pass a massive spending bill that includes big increases for domestic programs and thousands of pet projects sought by lawmakers in both parties.
The $410 billion measure wraps nine spending bills together, funding the annual operating budgets of every Cabinet department except for Defense, Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs. It spans more than 1,000 pages."

Now please feel free to add all of these numbers up and with them be sure to include the INCREASE in INTEREST that will be added month after month, year after year. To think any of you can even remotely accuse Bush of wildly spending. This Messiah of yours hasn't been in office barely 6 weeks and he has passed or is ready to pass a total of $1.7 TRILLION DOLLARS in NEW SPENDING and thousands of earmarks, he swore he wouldnever pass.

WELCOME to the United Socialistic States, we will now be working for the Government and in case you Obama ring kissers negelected to read the news.


"Take Ben Bernanke. Back in March of 2007, he said: "The problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained.""

"Or how about the former economist for the National Association of Realtors, who said back at the peak of the housing market in 2005: "All of the doom and gloom forecasts of a housing debacle are not only irresponsible, but also downright wrong.""


and you all get $13 per week to shut you up. ROFLMAO

Come on Notta, Christian, and all my fine Liberal Friends, what do you say about the Democrat Party now. $2.79 TRILLION in NEW spending since July 30 2008 and you sure can't blame Bush for this, they have spent almost as much as the Federal Debt was in all of history up to 1992 and done so in less than 6 months. You should be proud.

When does it stop?
Are you ready for those increase in taxes? You know they are coming, no way they can keep spending money we don't have until they are going to start demanding we have it by socking it to us all. You all wanted CHANGE, you got it.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 8:34 pm EST

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We were not discussing control of The House and The Senate.
We were discussing your point.
"Republicans are way too moderate nowadays."
That is a false statement.
That is what we were discussing.
And I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh on a regular basis.
Never have. Never will. Never would.
Again, you don't know what you are talking about.
20 years ago, in 1989, The Republican Party was much more moderate
than it is today. And when Reagan was President, it was slightly more moderate than in 1989. You like to think of Reagan as the heyday of Conservatism.
It really wasn't. That began in 1995. In 1989, there were six moderate to liberal Republicans in The Senate. Cohen, Jeffords, Danforth, Chafee, Specter, and Heinz. Today there are three. Travel back further in the 1980's, and there are even more moderate to liberal Republican Senators. You claimed that the party is more moderate now. You are wrong.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 7:40 pm EST

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Correction forgot THREE ZEROS

From 1992 thru 2001 the U.S. paid $2,765,471,000,000 in just INTEREST, that is $2.7 TRILLION.

from 2001 thru 2008 the U.S. paid $3,106,692,000,000 in just INTEREST, that is $3.107 TRILLION on a much higher debt but does NOT include the last $1.5 Trillion and the increase in Interest AFTER December 2008.

So it seems President Bush was able to pay more on the Principle and less on the Interest lower.

To check my numbers feel free to go to

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

So to blame Bush for Wild Spending, I guess the finger point more at Clinton. Clinton even after taking a trillion from the Social Security and other Trusts still fell behind Bush. Sorry Doc.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 6:04 pm EST

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From 1992 thru 2001 the U.S. paid $2,765,471,000 in just INTEREST, that is $2.7 TRILLION.

from 2001 thru 2008 the U.S. paid $3,106,692,000 in just INTEREST, that is $3.107 TRILLION on a much higher debt but does NOT include the last $1.5 Trillion and the increase in Interest AFTER December 2008.

So it seems President Bush was able to pay more on the Principle and less on the Interest lower.

To check my numbers feel free to go to

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

So to blame Bush for Wild Spending, I guess the finger point more at Clinton. Clinton even after taking a trillion from the Social Security and other Trusts still fell behind Bush. Sorry Doc.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 6:02 pm EST

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Well Doc Johnson
It was Newt Ginrich and the "Contract to America" that controlled Clinton's Spending, not Bill Clinton.

Unlike Clinton, Bush didn't rob the Social Security Trust and use the money to smokescreen his spending.

In 1992 the Federal debt was $4 trillion dollars and in 2001 the Federal Debt was $6 trillion dollars.
The Debt increased by 50%
In order to put it in proper perspective, you need to add INTEREST and INFLATION.

Bush took office with a $6 trillion Federal Debt and unlike Clinton, had a Major Terrorist attack, Hurricanes and two battle fronts. The part of the debt that he or the Republicans can be blamed for, rose to $9 trillion. Again an increase oof 50%. Then the the Democrats came into the picture and increased the Debt by another $2.5 Trillion, $2.5 Trillion since July 30, 2008. Just since Obama has become President $887 Billion plus another $418 Billion, that is in just the last 5 weeks and that is not including the money already appropiated thru the budget, but EXTRA. During the last couple of months of Bush's Presidency the Democrats pushed through another $1.1 trillion, Sponsored, co sponosred and passed by DEMOCRATS.

Bush increased the Debt by 50% as did Clinton. Clinton made his spending look flat because of the borrowed moeny from Social Security and the smart control of Newt when he became Majority Leader.

as far as Worst President, Clinton holds that Honor, without question. I can give you a list of reasons but the main would be his Impeachment and that was brought on by a bi partisan committe and votes from BOTH sides.Now, it doesn't take a Rocket Scienctist to see why Clinton was a bad President only a fool to deny he was.

We haven't even talked about the $900 million Hillary just pledge to rebuild the Ghaza.
The Interest is now getting close to $800 Billion per year. If a penny is not spent, the Debt will increase by almost $800 Billion.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 5:34 pm EST

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You're an idiot David Randall. The modern day Republican Party has no moderate wing. It has no liberal wing. It is about 5 % moderate at best. That's not a wing. That's a feather. 3 moderate to liberal US Senators and you know who they are.

Did I say anything about a "wing"? I made a generalized statement. But you have to pick something to rant about, it's what you do best, I feel so sorry for your wife, she is truly a saint. Now listen here Joel, I don't live my life looking backwards, so stop with your boring history lessons, no one cares. The reasons the Republicans have taken a beating and effectively lost so many seats is PRIMARILY because of the former President. That and because it has become a party of weaklings and spineless conformists. Doing nothing, turning a blind eye, and not standing up for the important issues of your party is what the Republicans are guilty of TODAY..not 20 years ago, and that is what I meant by my moderate statement. If you listen to Rush like you claim, you would know that.

(I know I shouldn't propose this) Okay history professor, political history of control of Senate and House..Repub's vs. Dems...what would a chart look like "genius"? Come on, I know you know...fill us in and don't expound too much, I just got my eyes to stop bleeding from your last history lesson. We are in a natural "curve". Research that and tell me I'm wrong.


You NEVER know what you are talking about David. NEVER.

Now hold on a minute there buddy, I know for a fact I was right on a few things, hold on, let me go look them up...

"you are a pompous, ignorant, loudmouth tool"
"you're an idiot"
"you are such a kook"

Now there's 3 things that I KNOW I'm right about.
-- Posted by David Randall on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 5:26 pm EST

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It is OK to read all the postings from you right wingnuts about wasteful spending. It's pretty funny and who doesn't need a laugh these days, huh? George Bush ran up more debt that all previous presidents in history combined! Unfortunately, that is a sad fact our current president will be dealing with until he leaves office. Bush also left office with the lowest approval rating of any president. So how about you wingnuts stop your complaining. Just kidding, I know you can't. It doesn't matter what you say or post, you people have absolutly no credibility whatsoever! George Bush, WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER!
-- Posted by doc johnson None on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 3:59 pm EST

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You're an idiot David Randall. The modern day Republican Party has no moderate wing. It has no liberal wing. It is about 5 % moderate at best. That's not a wing. That's a feather. 3 moderate to liberal US Senators and you know who they are.
3 !!! As presently constituted, The Republican Party has NEVER been more Conservative. You are out of touch with reality. Completely out of touch.
At one time, and it was not all that long ago either, The Republican Party was the LIBERAL party of New England in may respects. Vermont's delegation refused to endorse Barry Goldwater at the 1964 Republican Convention in San Francisco.
Goldwater is the beginning of the modern day Republican movement.
So what are you talking about ? George Aiken nominated Margaret Chase Smith for President at that Convention. There is no Rockfeller Wing of The Republican Party these days. A couple of feathers. Not a wing. A couple of pro-choice Republican women in The House, and Snowe, Collins, and Specter. THAT IS IT.
Hey genius, up until 1980, but not including 1980, the Republican Party Platform supported The ERA and Abortion Rights. SO, what are you talking about ? How can you say The Republican Party is too liberal these days. It has NEVER been more lockstep. I repeat, there is not moderate wing. There is no liberal wing.
The party is 95 % straight down the line Conservative. Do a little research.

You NEVER know what you are talking about David. NEVER.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 2:29 pm EST

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Wow, I'm not even sure where to begin to respond to that drivel. Reading it reminded me of listening to Charlie Brown's teacher...You are truly an intellectual giant Christian/Tiberius/Joel.

Oh, and for the record, I don't consider myself a Republican, especially considering the state of the party today. You are right on one thing, there is little difference today between the two major parties. Republicans are way too moderate nowadays. I AM A CONSERVATIVE MAN FROM THE RIGHT and damn proud of it. I also believe in capitalism. I believe in working hard and making yourself better, I don't believe in big government and I don't think that hard-working people that aspire to make themselves better should have to pay for lazy unambitious t.u.r.d.s. like you. You consider yourself "progressive"? LMAO, that is such a joke, if you and your ilk are "progressive" then this country is going to hell in a handbasket. Didn't you mean grassroots?

Rush Limbaugh is NOT the face of the Republican party and has no inclination to run for office, you're an idiot to keep mentioning it. It would do the party good to start listening to Rush in a few areas though. And for God's sake go to sleep Einstein, sheesh no wonder you are such a kook, you're sleep deprived.
-- Posted by David Randall on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 7:06 am EST

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Hey! did you read the latest?

OBAMA TO CUT BACK WASTEFUL SPENDING

The other news I found to be extremely entertaining was

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told the House Ways and Means Committee Tuesday that the Obama administration, which has been riddled with tax problems, is mounting plans to go after tax evaders."

The Tax Evaders are going after the Tax Evaders ROFLMAO

Now Notta, I don't care who you are, that is funny.

Noway did you Lefties ever have such a fine daily supply of idiotic doings from the Bush Administration as we are with the Obama Administration. We are only in his Presidency for just over a month and I have a Hard Drive almost filled to capacity with his insane doings and every day it is not just one, but several more added. At this rate I wil become Western Digitals Best customer. LOL
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 6:13 am EST

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Well it was 2008, but now it is 2009.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 2:20 am EST

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A baseball bat ? Oh JOY !!! I love a good game of sandlot ball.
I don't fear for my own safety. Why would I ? This is America.
Nobody dies for their ideas in this country, ummm well except for those memorable culture destroying confidence undermining
political assassinations during the 1960's but other than that, ideas are bulletproof.
Hey David, why not just find somebody who reminds YOU of what I might look like and ask them to play some alley baseball with you ? Oh wait, why not just chase down the Platonic ideas themselves and pummel them with a baseball bat you cretin. You off your meds or something David ? :) Keith Olbermann is an educated and eloquent patriot David. And I have listened to Rush Limbaugh because I like to know how the enemies of America think, he being one of them, and you being most obviously, another one. I like to appropriate his language, re-frame it, and then regurgitate it whenever I argue with a Conservative. It resonates within The Republican echo chamber that is the collection of their empty skulls and seems strangely familiar to them, as well it should, because it is the rhetoric of their portly radio hero, turned upon its head and re-deployed for my own subversive Leftist purposes. Narrow minded and partisan ? LMAO.
I can recite from memory both sides of the Left, Moderate, and Right critics of the Government since The New Deal. I am especially well versed in the critics of The New Deal from ALL points along the ideological spectrum, and of course, with a firm grounding in those intellectual traditions, it is quite easy to link everything else that has happened in this country since 1932. Partisan ? Not at all.
I'm just a highly verbose citizen-Patriot. You are not. The fact that you think Olbermann somehow represents one end of the political spectrum and Limbaugh represents the other, reveals your naivete. In your narrow band of information, perhaps that is the case. Not in my world. And I invoke the name of Rush Limbaugh because I WANT EVERYONE to talk about him. There is no fear of Rush Limbaugh with me. He's a joke. This is not 1994 bub. This is 2008.
And by the way, I watched the CPAC event on C-SPAN in its entirety.
Why ? Because I wanted to see if there would be any sort of change in their tune.
Nope. Still whistling "Dixie" you might say. Literally. So, back to the original topic: Michael Steele vs. Rush Limbaugh. What's that represent exactly ?
You tell me. I'm too cowardly to delve into a mess such as that. And if you think Obama is scared of Limbaugh, you really need to take a critical thinking class or something. My Commander-In-Chief ? What, he's not your President too ?
You don't get it David. Those of us on the LEFT, and make no mistake about it,
I AM A MAN OF THE LEFT, want Limbaugh front and center until 2010, and then until 2012. The more Rush, the better. If he is the face of The Republican Party, the Republican Party is in BIG trouble. If ? Let me self-correct. HE IS THE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THEIR DE FACTO LEADER !!!
God Help The Republican Party. Why ? Because I am a Left Wing Progressive Republican with just a hint of a Trotskyite about me. Good old Senator George Aiken would have liked me a lot back when he was attending UVM as a youth circa 1910 to 1914. He dabbled in some "RED" thought as a youth. Shhhh. It's supposed to be a secret. Good old George was my kind of Republican.
Why do you think it was that he was so supportive of ELECTRICAL CO-OPERATIVES as Governor ? Co-operatives are a form of collectivism, aren't they ?
No wonder some called good old George a Commie, eh?
Have you ever seen former Senator George Aiken's grade transcript from UVM ?
I have. You would be amazed at what he was reading. Stuff that would definitely not be on your reading list David. You just think you are a Republican David.
I am one. Just one not to your liking. Get used to it. In the very near future, there will be some Left Wing Republicans running for office. Why ? Because that is how things work David. Ebb and flow. And those Left Wing Republicans will be to THE LEFT of The Democrats on certain economic issues. More than likely, initially they will hail from New England, The East Coast in General, The Northeast, and the Upper-Midwest, and The West Coast. None from The South anytime soon, but maybe West Virginia could be a good breeding ground for this sort of Republican ideological shift. Why does this need to happen David ? Because it must. Ebb and flow. What will this require ? A splintering of The Republican base and an ideological vaccum that must be filled. Why ? Because NATURE hates a vaccum. Blah blah blah. Yadayadayadayada. It boils down to this. I am REALLY REALLY smart David. You're not. I'm just not your kind of Republican I guess. (Shrugs shoulders) And I don't think you want to play baseball with me David. I play to win. You'd be knocked off the mound in the first inning Ace.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 10:20 pm EST

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And a message for Rich DeLong. There is power in anonymity. You don't have any. I do. I have rhetorical power. You have none.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 1:59 pm EST

Power in anonymity? As it applies to you Christian that is absolutely laughable. As it applies to you it is extreme cowardice as you constantly berate and belittle people as evidenced by your common usage of words like idiot and other demeaning terms. Maybe it is because you hold a position where you can't spew your garbage and keep your title or position, or maybe it is because you fear for your own safety, either way it's cowardice. It's also funny that you can name-call and belittle and it's okay, but if I for instance, say that you are a pompous, ignorant, loudmouth tool that I would like to meet in a back alley with a baseball bat then I am "off my meds", why the double standard?


A16VC, wasn't that your idol, Ronnie Boy, at CPAC last weekend? Wasn't he mingling with all those losers of the GOP and the ultimate anti-American, El Rushbo? What did he get in his race for president? 1%? 2%? Yuh, he's a winner alright.

DH, I agree that Limbag's speech should be shown far and wide ... in schools of psychiatry, psychology and counseling. There is the biggest, fattest, most drug-addled ego one could ever hope to find.

CE, The Fat Man will never run for public office because he's making millions by pulling the wool over the eyes of compliant ditto-heads in the form of GOPs, fascists, skin-heads and assorted other right-wing nutjobs. There's no way he's going to give up that cash cow for some thankless job in government. Hell, he wouldn't have that job for more than one term anyway.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:13 pm EST

LOL, so all people that listen to Rush are "skinheads, fascists, and nutjobs"? You Notta are incredibly stupid and naive for being such an ********...oops there I go with the name calling...Christian must be rubbing off on me. Rush has obviously got under your skin Notta, do you even listen to his show? Or do you just mimic the clips and sound bytes that you hear on CNN and MSNBC? There really is no good answer to that question for you..if you listen, what would be your reason? If not, how do you know what he talks about besides the aforementioned sound bytes. I know Keith Olbermann is an ultra liberal "nutjob", but I find no need to belittle him and I sure as hell would never watch his show. So what scares you about Rush so much Notta that you have to attack him...that he is right most of the time? Your rant shows that you fear him, don't worry, so does your commander-in-chief. The problem with the Rush's and Olbermann's is that they are so far to the extreme right and left, couple that with the fact that the majority of the American people are sheep, few lack the ability to discern between truth and bullcrap, I listen to Rush from time to time and I can tell when he is holding Obama responsible for things that are not Obama's fault, and I also can tell when he is right on the money. If I have any question then I research what he said and find out for myself if it's true. I bet even Olbermann is right some of the time about things. The problem with people like you and Christian Notta, is that you are so narrowminded and "partisan" that you are part of the "flock".


Notta,

His dittoheads are so stupid, that they think Rush could legally run for President and STILL have his radio show at the same time. They have never heard of the FCC apparently. One of those silly New Deal Era regulations about the public owning the airwaves and not demagogues owning them. And Rush Limbaugh's Electoral map in 2012 would look EXACTLY like Goldwater's 1964 Electoral map minus winning Arizona. Not that he would run, and not that he could EVER win, but that would be just how limited Rush's appeal would be nationally. Personally, I wish The Cellulite Prince of Oxycontin would come down off of his throne and toss his drug addled crown into the ring. Limbaugh-Coulter 2012 !!! He can't hear and she's got an Adam's apple !!!
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:30 pm EST

Wow, such mean spirited words, different terms for fat and a druggie seems to be the theme that you two imbeciles like to use for Mr. Limbaugh. Your personal attacks just expose yours...and all bleeding heart liberals, fear of the truth.


Let me toss a controversial log onto the fire because the flames of CPAC's infernal psychic implosion need to climb higher into the night clad skies.
Ok Republicans and Conservatives and other assorted Right Wingers out there in Rutland Herald Forumland. Give us your honest assessment of Michael Steele. Be very detailed and I will respond in kind with my opinion.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:43 pm EST

Yeah because that's what we want...your opinion. Go ahead someone, give this **** an answer so he can belittle you and tell you how stupid you are and how great he is.
-- Posted by David Randall on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 7:40 pm EST

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Christian, I played you for a fool and you didn't disappoint. Why are you so obsessed with Rush anyway. It is really kind of odd. Hey, hope your still posting in 2010, cause you are obviously reading the writing on the wall and starting to panic.
-- Posted by Dave Holleran on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 7:18 pm EST

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But remember the first rule of Reaganism:

Never speak ill of a fellow Republican.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:45 pm EST

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Let me toss a controversial log onto the fire because the flames of CPAC's infernal psychic implosion need to climb higher into the night clad skies.
Ok Republicans and Conservatives and other assorted Right Wingers out there in Rutland Herald Forumland. Give us your honest assessment of Michael Steele. Be very detailed and I will respond in kind with my opinion.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:43 pm EST

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Notta,

His dittoheads are so stupid, that they think Rush could legally run for President and STILL have his radio show at the same time. They have never heard of the FCC apparently. One of those silly New Deal Era regulations about the public owning the airwaves and not demagogues owning them. And Rush Limbaugh's Electoral map in 2012 would look EXACTLY like Goldwater's 1964 Electoral map minus winning Arizona. Not that he would run, and not that he could EVER win, but that would be just how limited Rush's appeal would be nationally. Personally, I wish The Cellulite Prince of Oxycontin would come down off of his throne and toss his drug addled crown into the ring. Limbaugh-Coulter 2012 !!! He can't hear and she's got an Adam's apple !!!
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:30 pm EST

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A16VC, wasn't that your idol, Ronnie Boy, at CPAC last weekend? Wasn't he mingling with all those losers of the GOP and the ultimate anti-American, El Rushbo? What did he get in his race for president? 1%? 2%? Yuh, he's a winner alright.

DH, I agree that Limbag's speech should be shown far and wide ... in schools of psychiatry, psychology and counseling. There is the biggest, fattest, most drug-addled ego one could ever hope to find.

CE, The Fat Man will never run for public office because he's making millions by pulling the wool over the eyes of compliant ditto-heads in the form of GOPs, fascists, skin-heads and assorted other right-wing nutjobs. There's no way he's going to give up that cash cow for some thankless job in government. Hell, he wouldn't have that job for more than one term anyway.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 2:13 pm EST

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What about Ron Paul???? Do any of you even listen to what he has to say? That is who should have been elected to run the show.Who needs party affiliation anyways to straighten this country out!!!!!!???
Start by giving EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL in GOVERNMENT their walking papers and start all over..... WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!
-- Posted by Article 16 Vt. Constitution on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 1:59 pm EST

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Dave Holleran obviously does not know how the Government works.
Any laws enacted from January 2007 until January 2009 were signed by President Bush. Congress legislates, and The President executes authority with his pen.
We had divided Government from 2007 until 2009. The US house overrode ONE, and only one Bush veto. It was a Medicare bill. Blaming The Democrats for our current state of affairs is a debate you will never win. Your party won't make any gains in 2010 either with that sort of approach. (The Republicans will lose seats. About 10 of them in 2010. ) Oh and The Democrats took over Congress on January 3rd 2007, not in 2006. So it's been all downhill for you since then eh ? And how was that caused by The Dems taking over, considering they only overrode ONE of Bush's vetos ??? And Dave, if Rush Limbaugh is such a dynamic national patriot, how come he won't run for political office ? If he represents such a HUGE constituency, how come he isn't out in front of the troops, throwing himself on the barricades, and leading the Revolution ? I will tell you why. Because he is playing you all for fools. Dave, do you have an opinon about The Michael Steele vs. Rush Limbaugh power struggle ? I would love it if you could share your insights. And a message for Rich DeLong. There is power in anonymity. You don't have any. I do. I have rhetorical power. You have none.
You think that "paraphrasing" a public figure is as legitimate a way of framing reality as quoting them directly is, and then you accuse others of distorting the facts. You are laughable Rich Delong.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 1:59 pm EST

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My question about Obama is can he actually pick someone who doesn't have tax problems? Is this some sort of joke or something? You can't accidently pick this many tax dodgers, can you? Cantor was right, Democrats don't mind high taxes because they don't bother to pay them.
-- Posted by Monty Fox on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 12:54 pm EST

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and while we're all talking about Rush Limbaugh anyway, I think his speech should be shown to every student in every American classroom. It was patriotic, inspirational and above all spoke a raw truth.

Can't speak for all, but I was doing just fine until the Democrats took over Congress in 2006. Its been all downhill and a slow bleed since then. Next election-- Send them all packing.
-- Posted by Dave Holleran on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 12:52 pm EST

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So let me get this straight. Its ok to spend trillions of dollars on wars thousands of miles from our shores, but its bad to spend trillions in our own country to benefit our economy??? What does it matter how much we spend now?? Who cares? Its so big now it can never be paid back in anyones lifetimes. Forget it. We'll just print some more and loan it to ourselves. Been doing it for years. Wish I could run my business like the US Gov. runs itself. Ahhhhh, unlimited cash. Awesome. BTW- I voted for Ross Perot years ago. I highly doubt we would be in this predicament if old Ross would have won back then.
-- Posted by Dr. Gonzo on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 11:13 am EST

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Rich Delong "paraphrases" Rush Limbaugh, but accuses Democrats of distorting the truth. By "paraphrasing" someone, you are not quoting them verbatim genius.
Dig up an actual quote VERBATIM, and then defend the leader of your radio cult.
Thanks idiot. I'd do it for you, but I can't be bothered to expend the energy.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 3:41 pm EST


Christian, At least I have enough courage in my convictions to post my real name and I am a whole lot closer to what Rush's thoughts were than Michael in Vermont. Besides you do not have to quote verbatim to to get the point across, but there must be a certain amount of accuracy in the statement regarding what Rush said. You sir or madam, whatever the case may be, remind me of the modern day protesters/rioters, who are perfectly willing to start fires and cause mayhem as long as they wear a scarf over their faces. Don't hide behind a pseudonym, have enough courage in your convictions to post your real name, and let's leave the name calling to the children who do not know better!
-- Posted by Rich DeLong on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 9:06 am EST

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Here comes Jeff Leonard again

Even his own family can't stand him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW get your facts straight.
-- Posted by None None on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 8:01 am EST

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Obama= One Big Ass Mistake America! This guy is just digging us into a deeper hole that we will never get out of, Period! Where's my $13.00 in stimulis money! What a joke!
-- Posted by jeff leonard on Tue, Mar 3, 2009, 7:35 am EST

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Hey folks, the market was down another 4 points today. Another great buying opportunity! Who's in?
-- Posted by Bill O. Rights on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 9:51 pm EST

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William Kevan it must be your fault....
-- Posted by My Comment on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 8:14 pm EST

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Where the HELL is the TEAM WORK ???
If this countries government was a football team, I would bet against it 2000000 to 1.
-- Posted by My Comment on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 8:08 pm EST

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*****ATTENTION******

The Lift of the Missle Shield Story is CONFIRMED

The Eminient Domain Story has not been CONFIRMED
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 7:06 pm EST

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Wait! there is MORE.

"Obama Offers to Scrap Missile Shield If Russia Cooperates on Iran"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/report-obama-offers-scrap-missile-shield-russia-cooperates-iran/



Go to google and type in "Hillary Clinton china and Eminent domain" and then read what she just did while in China, the Clntons favorite country.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12886827/High-Treason-US-Gives-China-Eminent-Domain

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!


http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/hillary-grants-eminent-domain
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:54 pm EST

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Wait! there is MORE.

"Obama Offers to Scrap Missile Shield If Russia Cooperates on Iran"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/report-obama-offers-scrap-missile-shield-russia-cooperates-iran/

Go to google and type in "Hillary Clinton china and Eminent domain" and then read what she just did while in China, the Clntons favorite country.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12886827/High-Treason-US-Gives-China-Eminent-Domain

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!


http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/hillary-grants-eminent-domain
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:51 pm EST

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Rush Limbaugh VS. RNC Chm. Michael Steele - 03/02/09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2W8E--i158

Limbaugh-Coulter 2012 !!! Please ???
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:45 pm EST

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Internal Republican Feuding is a beautiful thing.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/02/a-note-to-michael-steele/

How many seats are you clowns going to win in The House in 2010 again ?
LMAO. Not many probably when your recently elected chairman compares
a recent gathering of your most Conservative members to a gathering of Nazis.

Internal Republican Feuding is a beautiful thing.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/02/a-note-to-michael-steele/
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:31 pm EST

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I will spin the economy later and lay it all at Bush's feet.
No problem. And in convincing fashion too.
Oh goodness me, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Steele are at odds.
Who would have guessed that would happen, eh ? LMAO
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:15 pm EST

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The drop in the Dow today is due to Bushs' policies and Bushs' policies only.

If anyone believes otherwise, needs to go back to school....and it's obviously high school.
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:12 pm EST

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Wait! there is MORE.

"Obama Offers to Scrap Missile Shield If Russia Cooperates on Iran"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/report-obama-offers-scrap-missile-shield-russia-cooperates-iran/

Eminient Domain with China for OUR debts

Out of Control Spending that is raising our debt to limits that can NOT be paid.

HR45 AMMUNITION CONTROL and a more severe AWB

He signed a $418 BILLION DOLLAR spending Bill yesterday that had 8000 EARMARKS that he said he would NOT vote for. Don't count any of those 8000 though.

Now lifting our SCRAPING OUR MISSLE DEFENSE SHIELD with a deal with RUSSIA.

What you Democrats neglected to mention was how big of a jar of Vaseline that we were all going to need with your Circus.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 5:11 pm EST

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Arnie now you stop that. You know that dems and libs don't like facts. It's all about feeling....
-- Posted by randal wright on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:44 pm EST

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What a Rush...
Said that anyone taking illegal drugs should be jailed...
How is he doing with his illegal Oxycodone these days?
Have a cigar...have a Viagra (now who's pill bottle is that)
Oh the good life....
-- Posted by My Comment on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:44 pm EST

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Go to google and type in "Hillary Clinton china and Eminent domain" and then read what she just did while in China, the Clntons favorite country.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12886827/High-Treason-US-Gives-China-Eminent-Domain

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/hillary-grants-eminent-domain

Obama is selling us out.. Only Fools can support this Traitor.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:33 pm EST

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Lets see liberals how has the market down since the messiah has taken office. In a word tanked. Down another 299 points today. Those economic approach is really working. Lets talk about that. Spin that liberals. I know its George Bushs fault. Who voted for the stimulus packages the dems,
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:30 pm EST

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41 1/6 days Arnie.
We strive for accuracy around here.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:10 pm EST

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Here is yet another one that clearly shows Hillary Clinton putting the final touches on selling the U.S. out to China. Just how long will it be before you foolish Demcorats open your eyes and realize the U.S. under this Administration is going to cease to exist? What does it take, it has only been 30 days and just how much more do you want to allow this administration to do before you all say STOP!?

Go to google and type in "Hillary Clinton china and Eminent domain" and then read what she just did while in China, the Clntons favorite country.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12886827/High-Treason-US-Gives-China-Eminent-Domain

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/hillary-grants-eminent-domain

WAKE UP! Clintons have taken the final step with the Bozo in Washington in selling us out. We are so far in debt we can't get out and there is going to be a NEXT year where we will need more and then what, what happens when we no longer can back those IOUs and China decides to take what Hillary has promised? What cities go down under Chinese control. You wanted CHANGE, you fools have sold us out for it and you have have it. You might just as well start learning CHINESE.
As he passes his HR 45 and the Dems rally to get FULL GUN CONTROL you will watch your country dissappear. How big does the writing have to be before you all can read it? Good God! People does this mean NOTHING to you?
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 4:05 pm EST

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Rich Delong "paraphrases" Rush Limbaugh, but accuses Democrats of distorting the truth. By "paraphrasing" someone, you are not quoting them verbatim genius.
Dig up an actual quote VERBATIM, and then defend the leader of your radio cult.
Thanks idiot. I'd do it for you, but I can't be bothered to expend the energy.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 3:41 pm EST

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"Rush hates him so much that he stated that he hopes the country fails under his leadership" Posted by Michael In Vermont

Here is a perfect example of how the left loves to distort the truth. What Rush said was, and I'm paraphrasing, he hopes Obama fails in his agenda so that the country would not fail under Obama's presidency.
-- Posted by Rich DeLong on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 3:14 pm EST

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Arnie aka Old Jarhead, has an imaginary friend, named Old Jarhead aka Arnie.
That's special.
Hey, why doesn't Old Jarhead post in this forum any longer ?
As soon as you appeared on the scene, he disappeared from the scene.
Quite a coincidence.
But whatever Arnie.
Say "Hi" to yourself if it makes you happy
the next time that you "see" Old Jarhead.
Were you exiled on some imaginary Elba five months ago
wearing a tri-pointed hat by any chance Arnie ?
Napoleon himself only returned for around 100 days or so before being shipped off to St. Helena. You have already overstayed your welcome Emperor.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:48 pm EST

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Wasn't even in this country 5 months ago and I am not Old Jarhead, Although as I have said, I know who he is. I can say Hi! to him, next time I see him, for you. LOL

All those points are my own, if you share them with me, Fine. I have no problem and I am sure millions of others share the same points as well. Maybe you stole them from ME or my friend, huh? Did you? I'll have to ask him when I see him.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:40 pm EST

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Rush Limbaugh is the de facto leader of The Republican Party.
Of course, he would never run for political office because
that would require giving up his radio show. FCC Regulations would apply.
Instead, he would rather keep right on
bamboozling the mouth breathers of America.
There's far more money in that enterprise.
I really wish Rush would run though.
He'd create a landslide for The Left of unimaginable proportions.
Limbaugh-Bachmann is the ticket that I want to see in 2012 !!!
Sounds like some place in Germany where the Olympics should never be held.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:34 pm EST

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Hey Arnie,

Five months ago when I proposed paying off all student loans, you called me a Communist. My plan was more far-reaching. Not only would you pay off all current student loans, but if you ever took out a student loan and paid it back in full or even partially, you would get that money returned to you. I read the rest of your points too. You are mentally ill Old Jarhead. The only "good ideas" in that list are not your ideas. The crazy ideas are yours though. WOW. Charge the Canadians ? LMAO at you ya fool.
War reparations from World War II ? From which countries ? Germany will finish paying us off in 2010. Or do you want them to pay us back for The Marshall Plan ? (Germany already paid that off in 1971) Hey I have an idea. How about we demand immediate repayment of Marshall Plan loans and if Germany refuses, we declare war on them ? Do you want money from the Japs and Italy too ?
France ? You sure know how to create a lot of Global tension Arnie.
Get rid of Unions ? The only Poltical Party that would suit you is The Falconist Party ? Ever heard of them ? You'd fit right in. Google them genius.
I would conduct and point by point critique of your plan, but you are just too DAMN tiresome for words and I just can't be bothered. But one thing needs to be said.
It was Reagan who signed the last general Immigration Amnesty back in I think 1986 or so. Lots of provisions for punishing employers who hired illegals. One thing though, and this is so typically Republican it makes me laugh. Lots of provisions and penalties, but of course, no mechanism to fund enforcement of said laws, provisions, and penalties. Lots of bark and no bite. No teeth. Why not ?
Well you need revenue to enforce laws like that and Republicans, well we know how they feel about taxing the wealthiest. By the way, some of your suggestions only require a modest tweak to make them acceptable. Most of course are nonsense. LOL again at trying to milk Canada for protection money. King Arnie of the International Protection rackets. We already have defense agreements with Canada clown. YOu should go preach your gospel north of the border. You'd never return Thibault, despite your French sounding last name. Oh and Arnie, we have term limits. I like to call them "elections". Didn't you notice how many Republicans were "term-limited" during the 2006 and 2008 elections cycles ?
Plenty of Republican Senators are going to be term-limited in 2010.
Many will just retire instead of facing that humiliation.
Like I have said though, I only expect the Dems to pick up maybe 8 or 9 House seats in 2010. Of course, the normal trend is to pick up zero. Only FDR in 1934 and Bush in 2002 have seen their party pick up House seats in their first confrontation with the electorate in a first term mid-term. I was saying it would only be 8 or 9 seats gained. Could be far more. For instance, over in NY State, I fully expect Republican Jim Tedisco to defeat Democrat Scott Murphy in the special House election in April. That seat was recently held by Kirsten Gillibrand, but historically, that area has only been represented by a Democrat in 7 out of 152 years since January 1857. It has voted for Republican Reps. 95 % of the time since the creation of The Republican Party in other words. Now when Tedisco wins, Republican pundits will start crowing about how it's the end of the road for Obama instead of analyzing the history. Why ? Because they are intellectually lazy, and also, of course they have an agenda to sell to simps like Arnie Thibault.
But, when there is a re-match in 2010, Tedisco could very well lose, and if there is NOT a re-match directly with Murphy, he could very well face an even tougher Democrat, and lose. There will be three special elections this year for House seats. One in NY, one in Illinois, and one in California. Republicans will win in NY probably and the Democrats will easily win the other two races. The NY race will be the closest. House seat shift ? LOL. YOu do the math. Completely inconsequential. The Dems made a strategical error nominating this Murphy fella.
They could have and should have nominated former Albany, NY TV personality Tracey Egan, who sought out the nomination. (There was no primary. Just a meeting at Democratic headquarters.) Perhaps Tracey Egan will run for the nomination in 2010 if Murphy is defeated by Tedisco. Wow. I just realized something. There is not much, that I don't know. :) I'm just like Arnie. Brilliant.
-- Posted by Christian Essene on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:26 pm EST

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ROFLMAO

Rush is the Republican Leader?

Too much, now Iknow I have read everything in the Herald.
Thanks Mike, I needed that laugh to set the pace for the day.

It actually doesn't take a lot of research to find where Obama has blown it and I guess you support the Democrats spending $2 TRILLION in the last 5 months and that is on top of the Budget. Another $400 Billion added in Interest alone and you tap dance that Obama is only hated because Rush doesn't like him.
I'll give you an ATTA BOY. LOL
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:20 pm EST

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Hey guys and gals....
Just relax and breath deeply.
Gave them a chance...it will take about a year
for the rich to suck whats left of the average guys
savings into their pockets.

Feel sleepy yet...this won't hurt abit...
-- Posted by My Comment on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 2:05 pm EST

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Rush Limbaugh hates him so President Obama must be bad. In fact, Rush hates him so much that he stated that he hopes the country fails under his leadership - and Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party. So march on you little Republican lemmings. March over that cliff with Rush as your leader. Of course, Rush will push you over the cliff but he won't march over it with you. After all, he's only in it for the money. And, after the 2010 elections, there won't be many Republicans left in the Congress to obey Rush's orders.
-- Posted by Michael in Vermont on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 1:43 pm EST

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Lots of interesting points. Many things that could have been started over the last 25 years.
I like the WW II reparation payments.
I think one thing everyone needs to consider is we're in the position we're in now because of narcissim and greed that has run rampant throughout all levels of society and across political boundries.
This is reflected in outragous executive salaries and people in houses they knew they couldn't afford placed there by mortage companies that knew they couldn't afford unless the market kept growing at an unsustainable rate.
This list goes on and on, pork projects, welfare abuse, insurance fraud, frivilous lititgation,etc etc.

You know what peeves me off because it it right in your face?
The person at the grocery store paying with their food subsidy card buying all processed foods and smelling of cigarettes while talking on their cell phone. Happened yesterday.

I think using the energy that you guys obviously put into these posts to brain storm solutions and write your perspective reps would have much more of a positive effect.

One note, you may not like it, the one single rep that responds to me, at all. I email them quite often, it Bernie Sanders. You may not like his politics, but I think he has the average person in mind and not just people he thinks will vote him in over and over till he dies like most all the people we have in Congress now.
For the record, I'm an Independant, not aligned with any party. And yes, I do vote for Republicans too... ;o)
-- Posted by Dave None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 11:25 am EST

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Actually CONCERNED, I hate to burst your bubble, but I havent listen to Rush in over 10 years. I speak my own mind.

Dave

I don't have an answer but are you going to tell me that in less than two weeks as President, Obama studied, reviewed and investigated all options and met with the Experts to solve the problem or is more of a Demcorat thing to throw money at it an dpray it goes away?

1. Pay off all Student Loans, total cost would be about $500 Billion. If we are so concerned with leaving the debt to our kids, give the kids a chance and not the CEOS who are already making millions.

2. Politicians don't collect a penny in retirement until the same age they are forcing the rest of us to wait to.

3. Take the Trillion dollars removed from the Social Security trust from the Politicians paychecks and retirement plans.

4. STOP giving money to foreign countries as per Hillary andher $900 Million Doallr Pledge, until we are ok for ourselves.

5. I would not have bailed out the banks or the state Govenrments or Wall Street, let it happen and then let us recover, now it will still happen and we will recover so far in debt it won't be worth recoverying.

6. Stop the Production of C 130s and all the other HUGE contracts that fall in certain districts.

7. Take Pelosi's Privelage of using a Government Plane for her trips to Calif, let her take a Bus.

8. STOP all SSI Payments to ILLEGAL ALIENS, STOP all EDUCATION Assistance to Illegal Aliens, stop all taxpayer's money from going to Illegals in away shape fashion or form.

9. Stop having the U.S. Government act as an INSURANCE COMPANY, as per 9 11 and Katrina. Where was the help in Iowa during the last big flood? Did anyone even hear about it?
http://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=33711
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25020185/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-080609-wisconsin-flooding-photogallery,0,972005.photogallery

Or how about the Fires on California? I heard there were 2000 in 2008 alone.

10. Do not BAILOUT state govenrments, make them adjust their spending, make them trim the pork and fat and layoffs ar ein the private sector and should be in the Government sector as well.

11. Eliminate Supervisory Unions to nomore than One per County, all over the U.S.

12. Make Schools accountable, a leak doesn't require a $600,000 new roof it requires a patch or a repair like any othe rbusiness would do. Just because it is Government money doesn't mean you go for the Max every time.

13. Put Firing Ranges along the borders.

14. Fine a $1000 per day, per Alien to everyone who has hired an Illegal Alien.

15. Make the Business who aren't paying their taxes pay or shut them down.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxes/
"NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) Nearly two thirds of U.S. companies and 68% of foreign corporations do not pay federal income taxes, according to a congressional report released Tuesday."

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/socal_wildfires_oct07.html

16. Term Limits for Congress People, State and Federal

17. Collect on all the unpaid World War II Loans and be sure to charge Interest.

18. Do a Savings Bond Drive and get Americans to buy them not just foreigners.

19. Police the Contracts with the Government and be certain they are charging FAIR PRICES and if not, Heavy Fines.It has been a joke for decades about the $1200 Hammer and you should check out the cost of a Military Gas Mask. There is so much waste, that we could probably pay off the debt by cleaning it up.

20. Forget Double Time at Construction Sites and other work Sites, get the Companies doing the bidding provide their own protection.

21. Get rid of Unions.

22. Charge Canada for the Protection we have given her as she lives under our Security Umbrella.

23. Turn Our backs on Mexico and close the border.

I could go on and on and I am sure any one could.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 10:31 am EST

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Hey Notta

Is Hillary committing us to one of HER wars? Or would you classify it as OUR war?

"The United States is committed to a comprehensive peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors, and we will pursue it on many fronts," she said.
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 9:26 am EST

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"Since I really don't want to get into a flame war, I'd like to hear from Joe, Arnie and Vermontis what exactly they would do to turn the economy around. I'm interested in their prespective on what can fix the current situation that exists in our financial markets and health care crisis.
I don't have a fix myself."


Ill take a swing at it.

1) If your going to give banks billions anyways..pay down peoples mortgages with the money...the banks still get the money that way, and people will have more money to buy things and improve the economy. Just dont hand them billions on a silver plater.
2) Tie all payments into Federal elected officials pension plans to a balanced budget..deficet spending equals no money into their pensions that year.
3) Sec makes two new laws....no stock/fund or commodity can be sold or traded for 14 days after purchase, and if sold or traded between 14-30 days after purchase its taxed at 90% of the profit.
4) Discipline the banks that issue credit cards..no more raising interest rates on existing balances..a top rate of 19%.
5) Fix the godrotted border! No one, not Obama, not God himself can fix the economy or the health care system when its being bled dry by 6 million undocumented workers and ANOTHER six million taking taxpayer funded benefits.
6) Pull 100,000 troops from bases all over the world and secure the borders above. Start a NEW border patrol, maybe under the Coast Guard, and train these soldiers and new recruits in a half military/half Law enforcement role.
7) New procedure in Congress..No EARMARKS. None.
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 9:19 am EST

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Oh jeez, Arnie woke up and ate his frosted Limbaugh logs for breakfast...
-- Posted by concerned citizen on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 8:53 am EST

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Since I really don't want to get into a flame war, I'd like to hear from Joe, Arnie and Vermontis what exactly they would do to turn the economy around. I'm interested in their prespective on what can fix the current situation that exists in our financial markets and health care crisis.
I don't have a fix myself.
-- Posted by Dave None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 8:44 am EST

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Personally, I dont think its limited ability..I think its limited integrity. The mans a liar, he promised to end earmarks and here hes going to sign a $410 BILLION dollar bill LOADED with Democrats pet projects .. for instance.i ask ANYBODY to justify spending 41.5 MILLION dollars on three presidential Libraries in this economic climate.

This is NOT "change" this is the absolute theft of taxpayers money through the use of economic fear.

Crooked Chicago Basterd.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/us/politics/02earmarks.html?ref=us
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 7:39 am EST

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Hey Notta

What do suppose this means? "British Prime Minister Gordon Brown hopes to forge a "global new deal" with President Obama to rescue the world's economy when he makes his first visit to the White House since Obama's inauguration."

Could it mean more STIMULUS? Could it mean that the restof the world sees the U.S. as a bunch of idiots who love to throw money around and even if they don't have it, they are willing to hock their futures? All other countries may not be wiling to go into incredible debt, but they see the U.S. is more than willing so let's go to the U.S. and see if we can convince them to give us some now. LOL Get ready you Democrats loyalist, you will now be summoned to take care of the world FINACIALLY. Could it be even the rest of the world sees Obama as a man with no common sense and the willingness to spend TRILLIONS

or this
Is Obama a RACIST?

"WASHINGTON The Congressional Black Caucus met Thursday for the first time as a group with President Barack Obama, the group's most famous alumnus."

Now what would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have said if President Bush met with only the WHITE members of Congress? Now we have a CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS, do we have a CONGRESSIONAL WHITE CAUCUS? Fair is fair in Love, hate and war. LOL

Now if it is ok for the President to openly approve of segregation and Racism then it must be ok for the rest of us..... LOL such TWO FACES.


How about this one

"Clinton Pledges $900 Million at Gaza Rebuilding Conference"

Now add to the fact that the Demcorats not only have spent $2 TRILLION DOLLARS in the last 5 months but have added another $400 Billion or so to just the INTEREST, that is a party I would stand in line to be proud of Notta, you keep boasting over the arrogant spending of the Demcorats, good toknow you found so much fault with Bush and you approve this Circus, speaks Volumes about you.


How about this as well, Notta?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/01/budget-chief-obama-sign-spending/

"WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama will break a campaign pledge and sign a budget bill laden with millions in lawmakers' pet projects, administration officials said.

Administration budget chief Peter Orszag and White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel both downplayed the $410 billion spending bill and signaled Obama would hold his nose and sign it. Orszag said: "We want to just move on. Let's get this bill done, get it into law and move forward."
-- Posted by Arnie Thibault on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 7:38 am EST

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Give him time, he hasn't been in office three months yet for crying out loud. There's no way he could fix all the turmoil caused by the fumbling bumbling Bush administration in less than three months. Limbaughblicans need to take a chill pill.
-- Posted by concerned citizen on Mon, Mar 2, 2009, 7:27 am EST

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Joey, put me down as among the many millions who voted for President Obama, OK? And, Joey, a better future question might be, who will be daring enough to admit their mistake at having voted against our young President. We'll see, we'll see ...
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sun, Mar 1, 2009, 12:26 pm EST

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I suspect that it won't be too long before no one will be admitting to having voted for Obama.
-- Posted by Joe Bradley on Sun, Mar 1, 2009, 9:37 am EST

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Time will tell and 4 years from now those who elected him will see just what change he has accomplished..Our national debt?? When will the bill come due to be paid? who will pay the debt and how?.
-- Posted by bruce meyer on Sun, Mar 1, 2009, 8:32 am EST

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