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Hundreds gather to protest Douglas veto threat

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By DANIEL BARLOW Vermont Press Bureau - Published: March 27, 2009

MONTPELIER - Same-sex marriage supporters vowed Friday to protest Gov. James Douglas wherever he travels until he reverses his vow to veto a bill working its way through the Vermont Legislature.

Hundreds of supporters turned out at the Statehouse Friday morning to rally support for the bill legalizing gay marriage, two days after the Republican governor made the surprise announcement that he would reject the legislation if it comes to his desk.

"This issue is not going away," said Paul O'Kane of Waterbury, who attended the rally with his civil union partner, Robert Tranchida. "We're going to follow the governor around the state and protest until he changes his mind."

The Cedar Creek Room at the Statehouse was packed with a crowd flowing out into the hallways as the Democratic leadership urged supporters of same-sex marriage to speak to House lawmakers who may be on the fence on the issue.

"No one said this would be easy," Senate President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin, D-Windham, told the crowd. "But we are more determined than ever to overcome his veto."

Rep. David Zuckerman, P-Burlington, said there are more than 75 strong supporters of the bill in the Vermont House - and they are pushing for a stronger majority of 100. Lawmakers would need 101 votes in that chamber to overcome a veto.

He said some lawmakers are struggling with the issue and - just as some did during the civil unions debate nearly a decade ago - won't make up their minds until the hour of the vote. He said supporters need to convince these lawmakers.

"I look forward to May 8 when we've passed a marriage equality bill and we all have the same rights," added House Speaker Shap Smith, D-Morristown.

About eight same-sex marriage supporters met with Douglas in his office for 10 minutes Friday morning. Beth Robinson, an attorney with the group Vermont Freedom to Marry, said gay and lesbian Vermonters shared their stories and expressed their frustration with his veto threat.

It had not been clear beforehand whether that brief meeting would even happen. The rally was scheduled to coincide with the governor's legislative open door session - where he greets lawmakers and other interested parties in his ceremonial Statehouse office. But that session disappeared from the governor's public schedule on his Web site Thursday, less than 24 hours after the rally time was revealed (a cached version of the page from a day earlier found through Google still showed the session on his schedule).

Douglas spokeswoman Dennise Casey said early Thursday evening that the session was still on, although she did not answer questions as to why it was removed from his public schedule.

"We understand that supporters and opponents of S.115 intend to come by during that time and we hope and expect that folks will be respectful and tolerant of each other," Casey said in a statement Thursday night.

After meeting with the governor, Robinson said his position hadn't changed.

"We made it clear to him that we are part of the Vermont community," Robinson said. "And we deserve fairness and equal treatment under the law."







READER COMMENTS


Vermont Freedom to Marry is a Vermont group made up of Vermonters. Definitely hundreds and probably thousands of them. We are all contacting our legislators, and they're listening to us.

For most of this campaign Vermont has been off the national radar, yet we've been working for 15 years. It's because legislators actually know their gay constituents that they're voting the way they are. It has nothing to do with anything or anyone outside Vermont.

Back in 2000 it was the anti-marriage folks that brought in Randall Terry, and this time around the anti-marriage folks who brought in "experts" on marriage and children Patrick Fagan (DC) and Monte Stewart (Utah) and David Blankenhorn (NY). Not the pro-marriage-equality people.
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 7:36 pm EST

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If you've read any of what the legislators have said about outside influence and the e-mails they're getting its pretty evident that this is coming from the Gay Rights Movement from California,Mass,Conn.Ma. Even our weekly rag has a full page ad in it,
and that money didn't come from a "minority" of a few gays in Vt. The voter referendum is looking better everyday.!!!
-- Posted by jerry coleman on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 10:53 am EST

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ex-vermonter (odd for someone with that nick to question where the protesters were from), VT Freedom to Marry has thousands of supporters in Vermont.

I haven't run into anyone from out of state at any of the rallies. No, actually there was one person out of about 200 who was from either MA or NY, some neighboring state. But 99% live in Vermont.
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 10:22 am EST

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Hey, nonenone was not the person who posted that immmediately preceeding comment
-- Posted by None None on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 10:19 am EST

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Let's put gay marriage, legalized marijuana, and while were at it, casino gambling all to a vote. I'm married and in no way feel threatened by the push for gay marriage. Everyone got equally ginned up when we went through the civil union adoption process and after that got passed what happened...nothing really. The economic benefit that everyone argued for in connection with civil unions did not materialize and as it ended up the roadways did not become clogged with folks coming from all over the country to get civil unionized. It would be nice if gays could be clever enough to come up with their own name for what it is they desire but it really is not worth the time, money and energy being expended by our legislature at this particular moment for this particular issue that many of us thought had been reasonable solved with civil unions. So let's just get it over with, do it and move on. Meanwhile for those vehemently opposed to gay marriage take solace because as I am fond of saying gays should be careful for what they wish for because the other side of marriage is "DIVORCE". So good luck everyone with the whole package that comes along with being part of this club!
-- Posted by None None on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 10:17 am EST

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I'm curious how many of these protesters are from out of state. Gay advocates from all over are using little, liberal Vermont to advance their agenda. Vermonts small enough as we have seen for well funded out of staters like Dean and Sanders to move in and gain positions of power. Sanders is a socialist and Dean is an egomaniac. Vermont is being used these people and the old time conservative Vermonters don't like to get involved and allow it to happen. I'm glad Douglas stood up to the media and the vocal minority. What about it None None, you want the people to vote on your law you're so sure are supported by the majority? Not a chance, you'd lose and you know it.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 9:23 am EST

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Good one ex-vt!!!!! If everyone gathered that was against it there would be thousand's, but some of us have to work for a living!
-- Posted by jeff leonard on Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 7:25 am EST

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So None None, if you're so called majority wants gay marriage and Douglas out then why aren't you screaming to put gay marriage up to a polular vote. Sounds to me like you're blowing air out both ends, next thing you'll be wanting to change the name of Camels Hump to Brokeback Mountain.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 8:51 pm EST

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Come on none none, the only thing you have inside knowledge of is not in politics. Maybe you should hook up with Tyrell.
-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 8:16 pm EST

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I cant wait till I can gets my lover to be true to me. He says we goin to get married and now it looks like it is going to happen. This way the aids stays between us. And if Jimboy is gay I think he is hunky. Meow!
-- Posted by Tyrell Brown on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 7:21 pm EST

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We have inside knowledge that he is gone next election.

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-- Posted by None None on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 7:21 pm EST

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DOUGLAS will not get voted out, the majority rule's, remember, it's your favorite line None None!
-- Posted by jeff leonard on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 7:04 pm EST

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Even more comedians. They are coming out of the wood work. Forgot, this is VT, socialist republic.
-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 5:00 pm EST

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don't you understand, jim knows what is best for each of us. i mean . . . omg . . . get a life . . . . don't you have anything better to do . . . we have to fix the economy before anything else . . . you can't expect jim to walk and chew gum at the same time . . . i mean he's no obama . . .

next you'll want to legalize marijuana to create revenue and cost reductions . . . we can't worry about the budget now . . . one thing at a time . . . we have to fix the economy first.

signed down and out stockholder
-- Posted by ronald grande on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 4:28 pm EST

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maybe douglas won't sign the bill because maybe he has a secret gay lover that would want to marry and if gays cannot marry he is safe ???

hmmm food for thought lol :)
-- Posted by Leo Porter on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 3:50 pm EST

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See, none none just keeps getting funnier and funnier.
-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 2:56 pm EST

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Douglas is out of a job next election...guaranteed!
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 12:32 pm EST

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I think the only funny thing here is none none. The Gov. doesn't settle for anything. He's normal and abideing by the law. And Mark surrenders, just what the none nones' of the state are hoping for. Lets just suppose the law was changed to reflect your desires none none as it not your rights, you would still be a pervert by any definition. And you can't legislate that. Vote the none nones' out of office everywhere.
-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 12:21 pm EST

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Gov. Jim: SIGN the bill...

BUT- cut a deal first: agree to sign the gay marriage bill in exchange for the legislature's REPEAL OF ACT 250.

It's a win/win. The gay lobby wins, and so too would the rest of the state, as it's economy would rejoin the economy of the United States.
-- Posted by mark on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 12:06 pm EST

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Funny, Douglas himself wouldn't settle for a Civil Union- why should anyone else?
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 12:03 pm EST

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