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House and Senate override same-sex marriage veto

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Rep. Steve Howard, D-Rutland, left, who is gay, gets congratulations from Rep. Warren Kitzmiller, D-Montpelier, following the passage of a gay marriage bill in Montpelier, Vt., Tuesday, April 7, 2009. Vermont has become the fourth state to legalize gay marriage. The state legislature voted Tuesday to override Gov. Jim Douglas' veto of a bill allowing gays and lesbians to marry. The vote was 23-5 to override in the state Senate and 100-49 to override in the House. Under Vermont law, two-thirds of each chamber had to vote for override.

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By DANIEL BARLOW Vermont Press Bureau - Published: April 7, 2009

MONTPELIER – Vermont has become the fourth state in the country to allow same-sex couples to marry.

Lawmakers voted Tuesday morning to override Gov. James Douglas’ veto of the bill, with a narrow victory in the Vermont House paving the way for the state to become the first to allow same-sex marriage without a court order.

The move comes nine years after Vermont made history by legalizing civil unions for same-sex couples. Now, it joins a landscape that includes Massachusetts, Connecticut and Iowa as the only states allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry.

“We are not done yet until every lawmaker who voted yes gets 1,000 thank you cards,” proclaimed Beth Robinson, an attorney with the group Vermont Freedom to Marry during a Statehouse victory rally after the vote. “We’re not done yet until every person who voted for this is reelected in 2010.”

Tears of joy broke out among the large crowd of supporters at the Statehouse after the final vote was announced around 11 a.m. Couples hugged, congratulated supportive lawmakers and began planning for wedding ceremonies in the fall.

Same-sex couples are expected to begin marrying on Sept. 1, the date the law takes effect.

Senators easily overrode the Republican governor’s veto in a morning vote of 23-5. The vote in the House was more dramatic: 100 members voted to override and 49 voted to sustain the veto. A two-thirds majority is needed to override a veto.

Rev. Nancy Vogel of Saint Paul’s Episcopal Church in White River Junction, who served on a legislative commission to study same-sex marriage last year, said some surprise votes on the House floor and one missing Democrat made her nervous that it would not pass.

“I was just so afraid that we wouldn’t get those 100 votes we needed,” said Vogel, who was joined in a civil union with her partner, Cheryl Elinsky, five years ago. “But now we’re planning for a Sept. 1 wedding.”

Contact Daniel Barlow at Daniel.Barlow@timesargus.com.







READER COMMENTS


R. William, I think I got off on the wrong foot with Mike and started a barrage that I really did not want to enter with him. I also do not think him to be a veteran but could be wrong as he did not say. I tend to get worked up over the use of fallen soldiers as a tool in any debate such as this. If I owe an appology, so state its merit and one will be forthcoming.

I would have preferred the vote route myself.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 11:48 am EST

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None None One, I want to thank you for serving the U.S.A. I respect both you and Mikie None but I just wished this whole issue could have gone to the Vermont voters to decide. What are your thoughts Mikie None?
-- Posted by R. WilliamL on Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 10:53 am EST

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Little mike, right back at you. Take out the perversion and repeat the rest.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Fri, Apr 10, 2009, 10:39 pm EST

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Little Mike, being that you probally never served in the military, I take offense at a deviant like you using the blood of fallen soldiers to justify your perversion. I am a combat veteran and I have no use for you or your kind. And that does not include gays in the military, for they at least do not broadcast it in every media available. You blood sucking leech.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Fri, Apr 10, 2009, 1:00 pm EST

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mmm...Negative...I'm very much straight. With a wonderful wife and wonderful children. And I live MY life the way I see fit. My choices. Thats my freedom. Paid for by the blood of children, who are 18 or older, in the military.. Children who you would call perverts or deviants if they live a life you don't agree with. But in most cases there is no choice. They were born gay. So why should they feel shame. Because you dont agree? Who are you but a big mouth behind a keyboard. Pushing on to everyone else your concept of morality. You are no different than any other idiot ass who judge people based on sex, religion, or skin tone. No matter how much you hate,despise, or judge, you will always be weak. But enjoy your free speech. Paid for by the blood of children you would despise if they weren't like you...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Thu, Apr 9, 2009, 7:42 pm EST

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Gotta love those gays, oops, bet you are one.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Thu, Apr 9, 2009, 7:04 pm EST

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Why can't we have some...But you are a moron...Oh Mormon...oops...My bad
-- Posted by Mikie None on Thu, Apr 9, 2009, 5:55 pm EST

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Gotta love those Mormons. Why couldn't we have some?
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 11:20 pm EST

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This is a bad day for VT.
-- Posted by concerned citizen on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 9:39 pm EST

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I did not follow the votes on prop 8 in California closely, but my sister lives there and she was explaining to me that the anti-equality people (mostly mormons from Utah) launched a campaign to deliberately confuse the issue so that many many people who thought that they were voting in favor of rights were actually voting against. In other words, the people were duped... And a lot of money was spent to do so...by a group of people whose policy is to milk the govt for everything that they can get ie welfare. Under The Banner of Heaven was an interesting read if you want to get a feel for how some mormon sects operate.
-- Posted by Comfy Anon on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 8:14 pm EST

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Oh, almost forgot, the SUPER-MAJORITY of the UNITED STATES is opposed to it as well. And made laws against it. Enjoy.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 7:22 pm EST

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Key word there Kevin is the elected legislatures. Lets see if they make it after the 2010 elections because as you already know, you aint safe yet. Do enjoy your little victory for now as we know it cost alot to buy the state by way of activists. No need to move so far away as you are fully aware that VT is not that fond of you either. And ask anyone in the country what they think of europeans. No luck their either. By the way, it did not make you normal, did it? Just two gays guys playing house with a piece of paper. Show us your next federal tax return. That means something.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 7:15 pm EST

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Marriage equality for same sex couples passed by a SUPER-MAJORITY of elected legislators.

Hurrah for Vermont!

If you don't like it (as some of you used to say), maybe you should move somewhere else? They're really anti-gay in Iran. Or Saudi-Arabia. Europe and most of the civilized world would be out, though.
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 6:52 pm EST

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Good job Dave, I had to look that up. I don't Text.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 6:00 pm EST

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No thanks, this one will do just fine.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 5:55 pm EST

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cypher cypher one:

You wrote: "I just wonder what the percentage of same sex couples that end up with HIV/AIDS is vs that of heterosexual couples?"

May I suggest you stop wondering and instead take the time to educate yourself. Start here: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#hivest

And when do you believe the earth might fall off it's axis as a result of the Vermont decision re: same sex marriage? How is your life going to be changed?

Too bad you will have to find another issue about which to bloviate.
-- Posted by Mountain Lover on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 5:41 pm EST

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Brokeback mountain mocks Amanda for her values. I just wonder what the percentage of same sex couples that end up with HIV/AIDS is vs that of heterosexual couples? At least with the divorced people the mockery is, like you say, of themselves, not of the custom of marriage. The other just puts you in touch with the actions of your behavior, either dead or close to it. Which value system is better?
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 4:50 pm EST

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ROTFL!
-- Posted by Dave None on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 4:13 pm EST

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And you missed huckleberry. Deal with it.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 4:12 pm EST

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Beam me up Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 4:04 pm EST

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Heh, You spelled fanatical wrong.

Huckleberry
-- Posted by Dave None on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 4:01 pm EST

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This is for you spelling fanitical morons;

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the first and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it wouthit a porbrlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzonig huh?

And by huckelberry, you mean the chuckelberries from bermont.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 3:20 pm EST

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Oh and Gonzo...

Please, we're begging you.

Take a remedial english class that includes spelling and grammar and not just pictures.

You come across like an absolute huckleberry.
-- Posted by Dave None on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 1:36 pm EST

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Amanda - show me your statistics.

Who says marriage is a union between one man and one woman?

Why do you think same-sex marriage affects you?
-- Posted by Dave None on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 1:34 pm EST

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This occation is truely joyous! Its so joyous in fact that I'm going to personally invite Rev. Fred Phelps to the first ceremony on 9/1. Fred loves bringing his family to joyous occations.
Or perhaps you would like to re-define freedom of speech too.
-- Posted by Dr. Gonzo on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 1:24 pm EST

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Amanda:

Most marriages(at least 50% I think) make a mockery of themselves when they end in divorce.

Perhaps our legislature should consider making divorce illegal so as to avoid the demeaning of marriage.
-- Posted by Mountain Lover on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 1:23 pm EST

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The democratic process was not at work here because it was not what the majority of Vermonters wanted. Marriage is a union between one man and one woman. Our legislature has just made a mockery out of every marriage in this state.
-- Posted by Amanda Buffum on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 12:56 pm EST

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As I stated in another thread, be patient. It will pass and it did. HURRAY!!!
To Concerned Citizen:

I concur and congratulations. My child attends a school that has two homosexual instructors and they are excellent! My husband of 31 years and I are more than happy to have these two individuals instructing our children. They are professional, capable, loving and genuinely caring about today's youth. You are 100% correct. It isn't about your sexual preference, it's about you as a person.

Ignore the naysayers. They will go away. Most of them are the same people who were bullying others on the playground in elementary school. They haven't left the playground yet and we all know you can't expand your mind when it stays dormant.
-- Posted by White Witch on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 11:47 am EST

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Not to worry Old Coastie, some people who read your posts are to stupid to know that you mock them. Keep up the good work.
-- Posted by NoneNone One on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 10:44 am EST

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Again, let's look past all the negative comments from parties that can't get the minds around protecting the rights of all people.
I think if you ignore them they eventually lose interest and go away.
-- Posted by Dave None on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 9:34 am EST

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'Welcome To The Gay Mountain State", how's that for our new motto? What a dark day for us Vermonters who did not want this. As stated above they want 1000 thank you cards to be sent to our Reps up north. How about this, send THOUSANDS of "no thank you" notes to the ones who did not listen to the people and voted yes. And while you have your pen out don't forget to send them to the ones who did not vote on such an important issue. Finally, remember yesterdays date and the outcome of the vote when the next time us in Vermont go to the polls and vote!!!!They would not listen to us now, but they will hear us then.
-- Posted by tim johnson on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 9:13 am EST

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It's sad that this issue took the priority of our representitives. The economy and jobs are much more important. It will definately cause me to review who I vote for in the next election.
-- Posted by Somebody Cares on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 7:32 am EST

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It's sad that this issue took the priority of our representitives. The economy and jobs are much more important. It will definately cause me to review who I vote for in the next election.
-- Posted by Somebody Cares on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 7:24 am EST

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Can someone please tell me why this is such a big deal to so many people?If you want to marry your partner that is your business and not anyone elses.Does it cause any harm?Does it hurt anyone?Does it cause any damage?I think the answer is no.
We have real issues to deal with in life and I feel that being upset over whether two people wish to marry isnt one of them I have time enough to get upset over.
-- Posted by I gotta life on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 6:59 am EST

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This is a proud and happy day for Vermont; but Joe Bradley needn't worry.
VT, MA, CT and IA will soon have lots of company.
Though it's best for the legislature to affirm civil rights, as ours did, marriage equality will come to state after state, in various ways depending on each state's legislative and judicial processes.
And the real victory will come when DOMA is repealed and the federal barriers to equality disappear. It won't be long;as the old civil rights song says, "Every victory will bring another." May we all live to see it in good health!
-- Posted by Judy Olinick on Wed, Apr 8, 2009, 6:05 am EST

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Old Coastie, why are you facinated with sexual acts between men to the point of obsession? Seek therapy.
-- Posted by Comfy Anon on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:18 pm EST

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It's not the will of the people when all the polls done last week showed most Vt'ers wanted this tabled this year or were flat out against it. Yes, it was a GOP poll-but of the whole state!!! Congratulations on passing special rights. Next year will be the polygamists, men-sheep, goats-women, pedophiles, every other "lifestyle". I'm proud my Governor stood his ground and shame on the pols who didn't show up to vote today.
-- Posted by PW on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 9:59 pm EST

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Wow!!! We've gone from being happy about a situation and gone right back to negative banter. Truly, this shows how little we appreciate progress. When we had Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running for President, I thought to myself, "America is not ready for a female President or a Black President" and boy was I wrong. And you know what? I am glad I was wrong. We WERE ready and we ARE ready. There will always be a sect of individuals who will try to build walls in the hopes of halting progress. They make life interesting but they fail. Still, they are at the very least, comic relief. Please (and I am not begging), let's move forward and get on with our lives without more undermining hatred. This is not about who sleeps with who. It's about equality. Not animals, not molesters, not pedophiles. Say what you will but we are not one in the same. Quite frankly, it's not for me to change any one person's mind. Welcome to the realm of having to agree to disagree. I am very proud to be a Vermont resident today. And for those of you who prefer to undermine Gay/Lesbian people, I want you to know that I am a Gay Professional and I teach the minds of tomorrow. And one day, when you need the healing hand of a qualified nurse, I may be the one who leads you back to health and give you the very breath you use to speak horrible things about me. I will remain committed to you and your well-being. I am not deviant or perverse. I am human. And perhaps one day you will respect me for the person I am and not the label or ideal that you've filed me away as. At any rate, no matter where we stand as individuals, we have the right to make choices, speak what we feel, and live the way that feels right for us. No harm, no foul.
-- Posted by Concerned Taxpayer on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 9:24 pm EST

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My mistake!! Look at you, look at you!!! This is your day!!!! We are so proud!!!
-- Posted by Enoch on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 9:21 pm EST

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Enoch, I don't know what you're talking about.
This story is front page news on NYTimes, LATimes, Yahoo, and more!

First time any state passed marriage equality in the legislature.

AND with a super-majority to boot!
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 9:02 pm EST

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Let's hear it for human rights! Vermont again distinguishes itself.

Remedial spelling is suggested for a few of the angry others. Then, get over it.
-- Posted by Juliet Chien on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 9:01 pm EST

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The funniest part is the national news finds this less news worthy than the possible Segway car. I bet that puts a knot in the attention needy's shorts. Let's see how long they last before they are waving their hands saying look at me, look at me, for their next "rights". The income from gay divorces should pull us right out of the recession. 160% higher for lesbians and 50% higher for gay men. And think of all the therapy for the "families". The cash should be rolling in any time.
-- Posted by Enoch on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 8:22 pm EST

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Hey Tyrell, Why stop with one man and one woman? I've got a few farm animals that aren't of much use to me anymore. You interested in those too? Vermont could be FIRST for that. Think of the revenue for the state.
-- Posted by None None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 7:32 pm EST

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Jeeze Doc...Sounds like your gene pool could use a little chlorine...lmao...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 6:08 pm EST

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David, I have no idea what you're talking about.
I have a full time job and sometimes I have to teach. I can't follow everything.
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 5:14 pm EST

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YES Mr. Moderate! I can see the headlines now!

$100K in every pot - VOTE POLYGAMIST.
-- Posted by Joe Bradley on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:58 pm EST

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Why do I get the feeling you're ducking me Kevin? I know that now you have no reason to answer the tough questions I posed in the other thread. But make no mistake, whether or not the majority of Vermonters believe in this farce will be evident when the yahoos that voted for this find themselves at home on the couch and not in Montpelier next November.

The only benefit of this being over is that you freaks won't be inundating my paper with your b.s. Thank God for small blessings.
-- Posted by David Randall on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:55 pm EST

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Jeff, dear, it wasn't money, it was a lot of people doing hard work convincing other people to do the right thing.
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:26 pm EST

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How Special!!!!!! What will they won't next? Goes to prove money can buy anything and pay some people off to change there vote!
-- Posted by jeff leonard on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:23 pm EST

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Hooray! Equality wins!

Thanks to everyone who has worked so hard on this. Vermont can again claim its place at the forefront of civil rights.

First state to legislate marriage equality! And by a super-majority!
-- Posted by Kevin Moss on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:22 pm EST

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Now that we are headed forward can we get a vote so I, being bisexual, can be married to one man and also one woman. I feel my freedom is being enfringed on till this happens. It isn't right that I am unhappy. Vermont rocks!!!!!
-- Posted by Tyrell Brown on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 4:14 pm EST

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Joe - Imagine the benefits if Vermont became the first and only state to legalize bigamy and polygamy? The economy would boom. The population would explode. Everyone would be making at least 100 grand. The Democrats in the state house would have billions to spend. Let's get to work!
-- Posted by Mr. Moderate on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 3:37 pm EST

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Now the REAL work for the gay marriage proponents in Vermont begins. You MUST ensure that prohibitions on gay marriage remain in the other states in which gay marriage is not allowed.

This is the only way that Vermont can continue to economically benefit from an influx of gays that get married and honeymoon in Vermont. If gay marriage is approved, nationwide, gay couples will merely stay home, depriving Vermont of all of the economic benefits predicted by the gay marriage proponents.

Now is the time for gay marriage proponents to marshal your forces and prepare to oppose gay marriage in the other states who do not have it.

Picket their legislatures if there is such a proposal. Do what you must but make sure that gay marriage does not pass in other states.

This is the only way that there will be the continuing economic benefit to Vermont that some in the Vermont gay community have predicted.

Now that Vermont has gay marriage, its time to stop the national movement NOW and enjoy the coming economic benefits that can only continue for Vermont as long as Vermont remains one of the very few gay marriage states.
-- Posted by Joe Bradley on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 3:25 pm EST

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Let's see, stomping feet and sounding like a petulant three year old... Hmmmm.

Not going there.....
-- Posted by Dave None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 3:22 pm EST

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Yippy! Congradulations everyone. You got what you wanted. No need to stamp your feet and make your demands anymore. Now please get married, live together forever, and never multiply. Hopefully in a few generations you will marry yourselves into total extinction.
-- Posted by Dr. Gonzo on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 3:16 pm EST

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The economy should have been first on the agenda, but this is now done and past and we can get it back on the floor. Lane is right, this will indeed bring wedding-based money in and now is a great time to be anyone at all in the wedding business (photographers, caterers, planners, etc.).

If Gov. "This is wasting our time" Douglas had not vetoed, we'd already be elbows deep in economic repair. Chop chop, get to it!
-- Posted by Scott Frank on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 2:34 pm EST

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OK, done. NOW will the legislature get to work on serving ALL Vermonters? Let us truly hope so.

None of these happy gay couples watching in the statehouse today will be able to stay living here in VT if things don't begin to change in some very fundamental ways. If there's a radical mood in the air in Montpelier, let it move forth into economic matters. The state needs to aggressively pursue industry so that gay and straight VTers alike can have something better than poverty-level tourism jobs.

If VT is to represent a value of openness to ALL people, gay and straight alike, let us genuinely make VT a sustainable place for all. This means lucrative jobs and access to goods and services. Please get to work.
-- Posted by mark on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 2:23 pm EST

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HOORAY!
Thank you to all of the representatives that made this happen! I am proud to live in a state where we all have rights. It is my belief that this decision benefits all Vermonters gay and straight because we no longer have to be ashamed of our states unequal recognition of the rights of all. This is just wonderful! I hope the rest of the nation can look to us as an example and follow in kind.
A victory for anyone's human rights is a victory for us all!
-- Posted by Comfy Anon on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 2:18 pm EST

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I am happy for my gay friends. May they enjoy the privelege of marriage as I have with my wife of many years. Now may the oppositions heal and fight together to try to survive this economic crisis that threatens our ways of life.
-- Posted by Concerned Citizen on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 1:46 pm EST

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Though some people may not agree with this ruling (I really don't mind it), you have to realize the amount of revenue the state will occur due to this decision. We will gain more marriage licenses, event fees, visitors from other states, and much more. This all equals more $$$ for our state and local business owners. That is the bottom line. If you can't see this act of equality as benificial for individuals and our state, then ignorance is among you. Either way, congrats to all of the Gays and Lesbians this effects, good luck and I look forward to a wedding filled summer in Vermont.
-- Posted by Lane Patorti on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 1:45 pm EST

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This was the right thing to do.

Thank you House and Senate.
-- Posted by Dave None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 1:20 pm EST

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I'm pleasantly surprised. A great day for human equality everywhere.
-- Posted by Tinmouth College Student on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:55 pm EST

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With the adoption of its constitution in 1777, Vermont became the first state to abolish slavery. In 2000, Vermont enacted the first Civil Union statute conferring rights and responsibilities equivalent to marriage. Today Vermont extendes and continues that tradition, becoming the first state to allow same-sex marriage without the intervention of the judiciary. I could not be more proud to be a Vermonter. Equality before the law and the right to go about your business as you see fit have a home. I believe that all, including the "freedom-loving" cowboys in the Western states, could look to us for inspiration about the true meaning of freedom. Well done!
-- Posted by Mike Duda on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:54 pm EST

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A proud day for Vermont and for our nation. Congratulations to our brave legislators!!!
-- Posted by David Bonanno on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:44 pm EST

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This is a great and historic day for the state of Vermont. We are the first state to successfully achieve marriage equality via the legislative process. (Don't worry, Can't Stand Ignorance, this law will stay in effect--we're there, it's a done deal.) Our supportive legislators and all those who made this happen, including the RH editorial page, deserve big thank you's. Governor Douglas will go down in the history as the man who tried and failed to stop progress. Shame on him.

For those of you who oppose this bill, the good news is that your lives will not change one bit because of it.
-- Posted by Ernest McLeod on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:40 pm EST

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A great day for VT, I enjoy living in a place that still believes in equality.
-- Posted by None None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:14 pm EST

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I love Vermont and I thank the house and senate for making this happen. This is a great day for the state of Vermont.
-- Posted by Jack on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:09 pm EST

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You have no more rights now than you had before this veto over ride. The pay back to these so called representatives of the people now begins.
-- Posted by Sense O'Reality on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 12:06 pm EST

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I can already feel the money flowing into the state. I'm glad our legislature finally found a way to help our economy, even if they had to disguise it as this. Good job!
-- Posted by Silver Miner on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:56 am EST

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Jacqui, the democratic process would have worked no matter which way the vote went. What I think you meant was, "Remember [sic] some of us are just plain happy the democratic process worked" 'for me/us/them'.
-- Posted by Scott Frank on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:44 am EST

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Remeber some of us are just plain happy the democratic process worked. We have lived under the tyranny of the right wing extremest a long time. It is good to know the country and state are back. Thank you Sen. Mullen and Bill Carris and all who voted. And yes we have our own prejudice in this matter; our most religious can get married here too. Awesome, Oma in Pittsford
-- Posted by jacqui yates on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:41 am EST

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It is a great day in Vermont history. May the rest of the nation follow.
-- Posted by None None on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:37 am EST

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Please do not come here in flocks from your less tolerant states. We do not have enough jobs as it is.
-- Posted by Scott Frank on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:36 am EST

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Excellent.. now that this divisive issue is out of the way, hopefully the legislature will get down to business dealing with issues that impact the lives of ALL vermonters, not just a minorty.
Congratulations to the Gay/Lesbian community. Now you can enjoy all the legal rights and protections of hetero couples in the state of Vermont. Unfortunately, this law doesn't change anything on an interstate or federal level.
-- Posted by M S on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:30 am EST

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Through the democratic process, our elected officials, given power by popular vote of the people, have chosen to override Governor Douglas' veto against the same sex marriage legislation. Those of you who are bound to post endless rants against this vote are welcome to, as they say, move to Cuba or some other non-democratic state. This is how the United States of America decides things.

And to you happy parties now able to marry who are undoubtedly going to tout the democratic process for your win today, remember some of you not too long ago spoke against democracy with the anticipation of losing this vote. Had you lost, you would curse the word you today praise.

The decision today is the will of the people.
-- Posted by Scott Frank on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, 11:12 am EST

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