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Police probe site of needle dump



A dumping site of hundreds of needles was found off Upper Cold River Road in Shrewsbury on Monday.

Vyto Starinskas / Rutland Herald

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By Brent Curtis Staff Writer - Published: April 21, 2009

SHREWSBURY — Police are investigating the illegal dumping of hundreds, if not thousands, of used hypodermic needles and syringes off Upper Cold River Road.

A state police detective and the town's health officer sifted through boxes, bags and plastic containers that were overflowing with capped needles, household trash and visibly used syringes that were dumped just downstream from the covered Brown Bridge. Bloody rags and syringes were also among the litter as was a spoon containing white powder, according to state police Detective Sgt. Albert Abdelnour, who said he believed some of the needles may have been used by intravenous drug users.

The scenic river gorge is a popular spot for illegal dumping, the detective said.

Abdelnour and health officer Irene Gordon characterized the waste dumped near the waterline as a biohazard which could easily have been swept away by the Cold River if a fisherman hadn't found the site on Sunday.

"If the water was up, all this stuff would be in the river," Gordon's husband Bob Gordon said.

If the needles had made it into the river, Abdelnour and Irene Gordon said they would be dealing with a major public health crisis.

"It would be a huge health risk," Abdelnour said. "A lot of the blood in these syringes is still liquefied. If the person who used them had AIDS, then you would have a major health hazard on our hands."

"It would have been a very bad situation," Irene Gordon agreed. "We got lucky."

Gordon said the town planned to pay to have the needles and other waste removed. She said she planned to contract with a company that disposes of medical waste, but she didn't know how much it would cost the town.

Abdelnour said he hoped to track down the person who dumped the waste by using receipts and other identifying documents found in the trash. The detective said he is also appealing to the public for help from anyone who might recognize photographs of the household garbage at the scene.

"I'm hoping someone has seen this stuff before," he said.

Penalties for the person who dumped the waste could be extremely high.

At the least, the offender would face a charge for illegal dumping from the state. But due to the hazardous nature of what was dumped, Abdelnour said it's possible that felony charges could be sought.

While the detective said it appeared the needles and syringes were used, at least in part, for illegal drug use, Irene Gordon wondered if the needles weren't dumped by a doctor's office or a veterinarian — or a company hired to dispose of medical waste.

"Usually medical practitioners contract with someone to get rid of medical waste responsibly. But sometimes they don't," she said.

brent.curtis@rutlandherald.com








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i have to say that i totally agree with none none because that local person that got charged was a person i grew up with and his name was deon webster and yup your right noone else did get charged with anything when they are the ones who started that fight and now about this article there was 2 people who were renting from someone i knew and they had their child taken away because their daughter was just barely walking and was walking around all kinds of needles they had in their place and they had them everywhere in the apartment under the couch,chair, in the walls and to be honest the tote box looks very familiar to me and so does that diaper box in the picture and i do not doubt that these belong to these two people which one of them used to live just down the road from where this site is and i just believe that this belongs to them and they are randy and nichole dupree does anyone know them yea they did good when they first had the baby and then they got really bad into the drug scene again so there is no doubt that these needle4s belong to them only because of the way they left my relatives apartment that they were renting
-- Posted by dum 2 dum dum dum .... on Mon, Apr 27, 2009, 9:50 pm EST

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John Gregory is the only individual on this board who has posted a legitimately intelligent thread. I moved to Shrewsbury from the city, many years ago, to escape this kind of crap. I didn't bring it with me, either, thank you Mr. "if you don't like it, then move" Vermont loyalist reader. I never felt like owning a gun until moving to Vermont. Rutland is a dump, swarming with deviants, pedophiles, drug pushers, murderers, and slobs. Makes the rest of us look bad. I'm tired of worrying about catching AIDS when going fly fishing, whether from needles, or the shade-balls that hang out at Pickle Park off Rte. 7 trying butt-f*** eachother in cars. Profile these people, and arrest them? Hell yes. Start in the Walmart parking lot, arrest every welfare case you see, and go from there. The rest of us are tired of the site of these people, and the baggage they carry. I'm following this case. I hope whoever dumped this stuff gets tossed in the slammer.
-- Posted by A Nelson on Mon, Apr 27, 2009, 1:06 pm EST

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John, you say you would like to stop the influx of drugs coming into the state. Let me ask you this, do you support the rail service to the area? Fondly known as the AMCRACK. When I moved away shortly after the first of the gangs were moving in from Mass. the "Solidos" or something. And there was a big brawl down around pine street and a local boy was the first in the state charged with a hate crime, due to using a racial slur during his statement to the police, after the gang people were trying to pickup his girlfriend or something. But the gangsters were never brought up on any charges i know of, and they were the ones bringing alot of the crack and heroin to Rutland. At any rate, Ultra-Liberal Vt, needs to wake up! And not worry about hurting a criminals feelings and give them what they deserve.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Apr 24, 2009, 3:42 pm EST

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John Gregory, your comment of coming from a crack house is just dumb. Crack is smoked not injected.And your comment of profiling "dopers". I dare say 75% of the people I know still in Vt smoke pot. And as in the past profiling has been the issue of much debate. How could the Ultra-Lib state of VT encroach on such civil liberties? After the crap they pulled off a few weeks ago. But from your other comments i gather you are of the Obamanism/socialism type, and feel if someone does not look proper to you they are a criminal or drug user.
In closing this is a terrible thing for anyone to do and the culprits should be tracked punished. But I must say in my younger days growing up in Vt. I really enjoyed driving the dirt roads burnin one...
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Apr 24, 2009, 3:31 pm EST

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this is discusting.. these things should of been in very tightly closed containers or in locked containers.. by all means not just thrown into a container as such ..yhis is very dangerous to all of us and could of been alot worse than it was .. this should be very well looked at and jail time should be served .. alot of children go swimming there rose gilman
-- Posted by rose gilman on Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 12:35 pm EST

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I used to live on Stratton Road, as a kid, and we would walk up to cold river and swim in the ice waters, what a shame that there are so many low lifes in Vermont now, when I was young, everything was safe, I feel sorry for the kids growing up there now. God Bless Vermont cjs mo.
-- Posted by MO on Wed, Apr 22, 2009, 11:34 pm EST

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It looks like the work of Brian McNamee...he has been known to save needles for seven years!
-- Posted by Tim Gilbert on Wed, Apr 22, 2009, 5:08 pm EST

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Anyone who thinks that is from a medical facility or from animals needs to take their heads out of the sand and look around, this waste is coming from a private home that's being used for a "shooting gallery" and most likely a "crackhouse" it may not even be from the area, it may come from another state, although I doubt this.
Look at the area, I sit beside the river many days and the amount of rental and out of state cars going up and down the Lower Cold River road is overwhelming. The town of Shrewsbury is so rural no one would really notice traffic coming and going from any house, the dopers know this and they use it. maybe it's time to allow the police to "profile" people and/or vehicles in these rural areas, I guarantee the crime rate would drop so fast heads would spin.
Btw "Concerned Firefighter" killing someone for illegal dumping, no matter what it is, is just a tiny bit too extreme for my blood.
Good idea Clyde, my old high school friend (and author of a good childrens book)but way too costly for the state.
This seems to be a joke to some people but this is going on everywhere in the area, it's time for someone to start looking into all the illegal dumping going on, not just this one, it's simple to find a name and address in most trash illegally dumped and in my humble opinion, if you find one name, you get that person to clean up every last little bit of trash there, THEN you fine them and throw them in jail if the waste is hazardous.
-- Posted by John Gregory on Wed, Apr 22, 2009, 10:33 am EST

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Clyde Fitzgerald you so crazy!!!
-- Posted by Fredrocket on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 10:29 pm EST

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Test for DNA, maybe someone who's needle(s) were there, is in the DNA databank. Then they could possibly find out who dumped them there(Doctors office,etc.). If they do find the responsible party(s), Ban them from any type of position that even thinks of using any type of hazardous substances. Along with the full effect of the law in prosecution! Sick,Sick,Sick!!! CCF
-- Posted by Clyde Fitzgerald on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 6:02 pm EST

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Agree with Millhouse. The size and particulars point to this being a med waste dump. 'Spoon with white powder' probably tossed in there to throw investigators off. I sure hope the staties dig into this seriously because if the culprit can get away with it onece, it'll happen again.
-- Posted by Joe Biker on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 12:46 pm EST

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I think it looks like a medical waste dump, its not a drug-user dump, everyone is cutting back and medical waste disposal is not cheap, until one gets caught.
-- Posted by Richard Millhouse on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 12:16 pm EST

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it should be pretty easy to detect if the blood is animal or human- sadly, animal blood would be much cleaner than human blood and easier to deal with! Hopefully, its a mistake via disposal, rather than scumbags pitching needles- gotta be careful where you take your kids swimming this summer!!!!!
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 11:45 am EST

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I just thank goodness it wasn't a child who found this junk. Unfortunately the people who do this, really don't care about anyone or anything but themselves and where they're going to get their next "fix". Now the taxpayers will have to pay to get rid of it. I hope they find the person or persons who dumped their junk and make them pay one way or another.
-- Posted by SB None on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 9:12 am EST

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It's sad to say,But for everyone of us that care there is a 100 that could care less. People just do what ever they want when ever they want.And the hell with everybody else.I really hope the courts slam who ever did this.No excuses.
-- Posted by MISTER B. on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 8:56 am EST

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no John thats to easy, build a plexiglass cage with cameras on the outside watching them. Shoot them up and watch them jones, just when they come down shoot them up again. Repeat this until they die, then show the videos.
-- Posted by Concerned FireFighter on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 8:50 am EST

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This is disgusting, I own a couple acres very close to there, from now on it will be posted and patrolled. I'm no angel but this is putting the entire regions health at risk people swim there all the time and if that had gotten into the river it would have been a disaster maybe even as bad as shutting down the waterway all the way to Otter Creek.
It's time to stop the influx of drugs from out of state, the police need to profile, if they look like dopers, pull 'em over and search 'em. AND KEEP THEM IN JAIL....
-- Posted by John Gregory on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 7:49 am EST

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I am speechless.
-- Posted by Scott Frank on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 7:42 am EST

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