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By Gordon Dritschilo Staff Writer - Published: June 19, 2009

MIDDLETOWN SPRINGS — A developer told residents Thursday he doesn't plan to put any wind towers in their town.

Vermont Community Wind Farm spokesman Jeff Wennberg said all potential sites in Middletown and Tinmouth, along with several in Ira, have been dropped from the company's plan to build an 80-megawatt wind farm in the southeastern part of the county.

Wennberg also apologized for instances of trespassing that took place during studies for the project and said that VCWF expects to announce a new financial partner within the next few weeks. He addressed an audience of about 60 at a community forum in Middletown Springs on Thursday night.

Owner Per White-Hansen initially identified 60 potential sites for towers. He said early on how many of those sites he would seek to develop would depend on a number of factors, but that he did not expect to develop all of them.

The change announced Thursday eliminates 15 potential sites, 11 on Traynor Brook Ridge and four on the southern end of Suzie's Peak. This included all the potential sites in Tinmouth, and several of the ones in Ira and Middletown Springs. It also eliminated the need for two transmission lines.

Wennberg said the company got a lot of negative comments from people in Ira about one of the lines, and engineers determined that towers on Suzie's Peak could be served by a transmission line in Clarendon.

"One of the things we've heard is the project is too big," he said in an interview before the meeting. "You're not going to be able to look anywhere and not see turbines. This would eliminate one of the ridgelines and mitigate the visual impact."

Wennberg also said some of the houses on Traynor Brook Ridge made it hard to site towers with appropriate buffer zones. White-Hansen also said the roads in the area were a factor and that at least two landowners there did not want to sign on.

"The thing we want to emphasize here is we've said from the beginning that even though there were specific dots on the map, we were anxious to hear from people and make project revisions," Wennberg said. "We're not done with that revision process."

Toward the end of the meeting, resident Earl Parker held up a box used to study bat populations and asked why he found it on his land. Wennberg said it was placed there by accident.

"It's the project's responsibility to make sure consultants are honoring property lines," Wennberg said, adding that he was having consultants double check the locations of all equipment. "If it can happen once, it can happen more than once."

It has happened more than once — a landowner in Ira complained to the Select Board there after finding equipment on his land. Wennberg said the company is learning that its maps are not entirely accurate.

"If anyone suspects or has knowledge of (other such incidents), please tell us," he said.

gordon.dritschilo@rutlandherald.com








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I agree with Allen-- VT loses a lot of credibility and respect as people come to realize that the promoted images of the state turn out to be nothing but hot air.

"We were green before being green was cool." Not really. There's always some excuse to weasel out of the hard decisions that people here say they are eager to make for the good of the planet and society.

All talk. No walk.
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-- Posted by mark on Mon, Jun 22, 2009, 10:25 am EST

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Robert, We live in a liberal gay state, that explains alot!
-- Posted by Mountain Boy on Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 9:44 pm EST

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"What do you see as our alternatives?"

I don't know. For now, we need to clean up what we do have (i.e., coal), which isn't going away anytime soon. We need to use less. We should continue to work on rooftop solar to make it affordable, to better use all that energy that our rooftops currently reflect or absorb.

One thin is clear, though: industrial-scale wind doesn't change anything about our energy use.
-- Posted by Eric Rosenbloom on Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 9:18 pm EST

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Just in case you are not sure how to do a Google search, check out this site for starters:

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/
-- Posted by Robert Hodge on Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 3:33 pm EST

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Maybe someone can help me understand why the "green" Vermonters have fought tooth and nail to keep cell towers of the peaks of Vermont, but it is OK to put these huge turbines on the same peaks. Oh, and in case you hadn't thought of it. It only takes one cell tower to provide quite a large area of service as opposed to a whole ridge line of turbines!
By the way, all of you obviously have internet access and enough time on your hands to write these comments, so why don't you take the time to research the potential downsides to wind power before jumping to the conclusion that they will save the planet!
While it is too early to draw conclusions about the health risks involved with these machines, there certainly seems to be enough anecdotal evidence to be concerned.
It appears that in addition to the possible health risks for those living near the wind turbines, animals seem to disappear within a 3 mile radius, Hmmmm that should make one think! Animals know what is not good for them, and the hunters should be thrilled. Oh, I forgot it is inhumane to kill Bambi anyway!
-- Posted by Robert Hodge on Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 3:30 pm EST

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Eric - What do you see as our alternatives?
-- Posted by Allen Seiple on Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 11:23 am EST

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For electricity, we are already pretty much independent, primarily using coal. Thomas Pickens wants us to use more domestic natural gas (in which he is heavily invested). So independence is not really an issue in electricity generation.

If simply reducing fossil fuel use for electricity is the issue, then a little research quickly calls into question wind's ability to do so. In short, wind on the grid forces other generators to operate less efficiently, i.e., burn more, not less, fuel per kilowatt-hour produced.

That's what the Pickens Plan is really up to: More wind means more natural gas plants for backing it up.
-- Posted by Eric Rosenbloom on Sat, Jun 20, 2009, 12:59 pm EST

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Eric - Would it be reasonable to agree that any contribution of non-fossil fuel would reduce our foreign dependence? For the record, I am not a green energy fanatic, but our dependence and support of regimes that do not particularly care for us leads me to look at other more domestic options. T. Boones Pickens has some interesting ideas. If you look at his website, you will find a government study showing where most of the wind potential is in the U.S. Of interest is that the spine of the appalachian mountains is a high wind potential area. All I am asking is for people to offer ideas rather than just shooting down every option presented. For years Ted Kennedy has been ranked as a "green" politician. However, he strongly opposes wind farms off of his island mansion on Marthas Vineyard - go figure!
-- Posted by Allen Seiple on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 7:31 pm EST

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Actually, usage is very predictable, and when it varies because of weather it does so in at a rate that allows plenty of time for the grid to respond. Wind is the opposite. That's why utilities try to limit how much "net metered" home systems they allow on their grids. Such a facility several thousand times larger than a substantial home system would make us more, not less, dependent on other sources.

Or it would be sent around that northeastern grid to dissipate as heat.
-- Posted by Eric Rosenbloom on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 6:16 pm EST

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None None - For starters, why don't you use your real name instead of HIDING behind "n.. n..? I have not found anything that states it is illegal to do a conceptual drawing with dots representing wind towers without a lease. Who in their right mind would lease the property and then propose a wind farm. Clearly, you have not and do not run a profitable business. Most proposals start as a concept and go from there. Also, to those stating wind is unreliable, it is no more predictable than usage and the weather that drives electrical usage. We operate on a grid that allows electricity to flow from various sources across the northeastern United States. Electricity generated by wind would feed into the grid just as individual wind towers are allowed to feed into the grid. Any electricity produced by wind would be that much less energy needed to be purchased from our friendly international suppliers.
-- Posted by Allen Seiple on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 5:27 pm EST

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People in the green state do want green energy, done by developers who have respect for the people who live here. Why is that so hard? This developer put dots on a map on private property without lease agreements. The reasons given for "scaling back" are all bogus, except for the lack of lease agreements. Nobody wants to cooperate with people who behave this way. It's not about whether wind energy is good or not. It's about a bad developer trampling all over private property and being arrogant and less than honest. The people in Ira had a meeting last week and a show of hands indicated all but a couple people are opposed to this project. Blame the developer for managing to turn people off of wind energy the way he is doing it.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 9:36 am EST

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This is a regular part of the development playbook: Propose a much bigger project than you actually plan, so that you look considerate when you pretend to scale it back.

In fact, the company has from the start said they would need as few as 32 sites, not all 60, to provide their goal of 80 MW installed capacity (16-27 MW annual average output).
-- Posted by Eric Rosenbloom on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 9:17 am EST

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But wind has minuscule benefits to weigh against its obvious disadvantages. Most of all, it does not represent an alternative, because the wind is a fickle source.
-- Posted by Eric Rosenbloom on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 8:58 am EST

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You have to love Vermont. The "green" state. For years I have read about how we need to get off oil and other polluting fossil fuels and become a green energy state. Then, when someone proposes a wind farm - not in my backyard. It is time for the residents of Vermont to either accept fossil fuels, stop bashing Yankee, or support wind. Everyone needs to realize, there is no silver bullet with energy. Each option has its benefits and disadvantages.
-- Posted by Allen Seiple on Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 5:46 am EST

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