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City cruiser crashes on West Street



A Rutland City Police officer is put into an ambulance at the scene of a crash on West Street in Rutland on Thursday.

Vyto Starinskas / Rutland Herald

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By Brent Curtis Staff Writer - Published: July 3, 2009

State police are trying to determine what caused a Rutland police officer to veer his cruiser into oncoming traffic Thursday, causing an accident that sent the officer and another motorist to the hospital.

Officer Gary Tobin, 52, a veteran of the department, suffered injuries to his knees and a possible concussion but was listed in good condition at Rutland Regional Medical Center Thursday evening.

Proctor resident Mary Smith, the 78-year-old driver in the other car, was also taken to the hospital where she was treated for chest discomfort and released.

Witnesses saw Tobin's cruiser, traveling west on West Street at the intersection with Merchants Row, cross the yellow line and collide with Smith's 2008 Mercedes 300, which was stopped at the red light. The collision pushed Smith's car back about 50 feet from the top of the turn lane.

The front ends of both vehicles were meshed together in the eastbound lane of traffic in front of 138 Main St.

Police closed off West Street between Merchants Row and Evelyn Street while emergency medical responders treated the drivers and State Police troopers investigated the crash.

It's unclear what happened to Tobin in the moments before the crash.

State Trooper Adam Boynton, who is investigating the crash, said a witness said Tobin appeared to be having a seizure as he drove through the intersection. Police and city Public Works employees at the scene said Tobin was pale and unresponsive when he was pulled from the cruiser.

Police Sgt. John Sly, who oversees Tobin's shift, said the former school resource officer and DARE officer didn't appear sick or disoriented earlier in the day when he came on duty. He also said Tobin's health record didn't include conditions that caused seizures.

"We're all dumbfounded," Sly said. "We have no explanation for what happened."

Tobin doesn't know what happened either, Sly said.

After regaining consciousness at the hospital, Tobin said he has no memory of the crash or the moments leading up to it, Sly and Boynton said.

Boynton said physicians at the hospital were evaluating Tobin for a possible medical condition that would cause him to lose consciousness.

Sly said Tobin would remain at the hospital overnight for observation. He also said Tobin would not be cleared to return to work if there was any indication that a medical condition existed that could cause similar blackouts in the future.

Anyone who witnessed the crash is asked to contact Boynton at 773-9101.

brent.curtis@rutlandherald.com








READER COMMENTS


Shame on you people for posting anything but good things that both parties are ok. It was an accident, and I'm sure we will find out details at a later date. Officer Tobin was our school officer when we were in school and he is a great guy. If you think he just plowed into the woman while singing Hi Ho Cherrio you are a total idiot. S*** happens. No one died. And if they did, it would have been a tragic ACCIDENT. Get over it!

Smart Thinking, I just about DIED laughing when I read your wreath comment.
-- Posted by sam palumbo on Mon, Jul 6, 2009, 1:54 pm EST

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CF reality, I fail to see how Brent Curtis is somehow using this as some sort of 'agenda.' I see a plain reporting of facts with no bias. If they DIDN'T write about an accident with a police cruiser you'd be crying coverup!
-- Posted by Dear Jane on Mon, Jul 6, 2009, 10:55 am EST

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This officer had no history of seizures. If that is what happened it was a first and unfortunate time to have it. Why don't the welfare rats and the serial convicts back away from their natty light and keyboards and wait to find out what really happened instead of being led by the nose by the media like you were in electing the illegal alien we have as a President.
-- Posted by Don D on Mon, Jul 6, 2009, 10:05 am EST

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None None, or should I call you Dr. Freudian, how about a little self medication and some R&R in the HaHa House. Gettin' a little over the edge on a subject matter that is not personnaly related to you.
-- Posted by Curious gt on Sun, Jul 5, 2009, 5:38 pm EST

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And by the way,When I said "if he was having seizures" I mean the time before and up to the crash, Like other people said seizures can just magically appear with no apparent reason or crash.
-- Posted by None None on Sun, Jul 5, 2009, 10:23 am EST

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Okay, first off michael in vermont, Why would he have any recollection of the crash? Its called a self defense mechanism, if you knew anything about the human consciousness you would know this. I've been trained in behavioral psychology for what I do for a living. So spare me the cheap babble you saw on TV.

Second, curious gt, nice butchering of English language. Obviously, if he was having seizures he wouldn't be on the force at all their insurance would see to this which is a completely independent company. You should really think before you start writing crap like "And whats worst". You know nothing, its horribly obvious, and terribly sad to think someone might actually take you anything you say seriously.

This could have been something simple and you people immediately cry foul and conspiracy. Seriously, some of you people need to get a life.
-- Posted by None None on Sun, Jul 5, 2009, 10:19 am EST

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I agree with Justacitizen.

This is why all Police Departments should "Decline comment" until there is something "solid" to comment on.


No matter what you say. The press will end up turning it against you. It's not wrong saying what he did.

a) The 100% certain reason for the cause hasn't been figured.
b) He is assuming something medical ocurred since nothing else makes sense.

So, I don't see where the conspiracy is. The officer himself is just being human and is dumbfounded. The worst mistake he made was saying anything at all.

I know some people are upset with the RPD. But please remember. There are some good Cops out there. Let's be sure you do not smear a good cop trying to "play your game".

Shame on Brent Curtis, again, for trying to build a case, and public opinion, against this Cop and the entire police force. It isn't the time, incident, or place to use this misfortune for your own personal/agenda gain.

I'm glad the woman is ok. She was obviously at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I'm also happy Tobin is doing O.K. and hopefully they will find and ease this condition.

Remember people, we are all human! Our body could fail us at any time. Let's be fortunate no one has been listed with serious injuries. It could have been much worse.
-- Posted by CF Reality on Sun, Jul 5, 2009, 8:37 am EST

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People, there Are conditions out there that don't show any type of symptoms until one day , Boom, you just get a seizure.. This officer can't be held liable, nor his doctor, for not knowing about this "condition" or what ever it is.. We don't even know any of the facts yet, let alone all of them.. How can we sit here and judge , and slander an officer of our City just because they were involved in an accident.
I assure you, if the situation was reversed, people would be chewing this woman up and spitting her all over the city...
It's not right. The fact is, there was an accident and someone was injured. It shouldn't matter what their occupation is..
Let us just hope that if any of us are ever involved in an incident, that out names and "dirty laundry " aren't spewed all about the Rutland Herald.
Shame on this entire article and shame on the patrons of Rutland City...
I hope the woman is doing well, and I hope that officer Tobin finds out what is going on with his health.. Thank God no one was seriously injured.
-- Posted by justa citizen None on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 4:08 pm EST

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I have to agree with Michael in Vermont. What's even worst is the accident should not have happened. It should be mandatory that any employee must inform their employer if they have a history of seizures that would limit their ability to operate machinery. 78 years old, lucky to be alive. I see another lawsuit coming down the pike. It may be time to overhaul the entire city's employee performance mandates. I don't know what our insurance rating is, but it must be a humdinger trible digit especially with negotiations on the table, now we actually get to see our men in blue (and unsually experience, liken to a UFO sitting)in action. Not a very good start from the gate, boyas.
-- Posted by Curious gt on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 9:28 am EST

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#1 We are all human and we have accidents! #2 Seizures are a very serious thing and very uncontrolable. I hope everyone here turns out ok... these are just cars and are replaceable, however, people are not.
-- Posted by Brian Leno on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 9:06 am EST

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Michael in Vermont, You are obviously a cop hating scumbag who has a family tree resembling a wreath. Why don't you go back to your dysfunctional family home where your Aunt Mom and Uncle Dad live, and wait for your monthly welfare check to come in.
-- Posted by Smart Thinking on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 1:33 am EST

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for crying out loud, just let the officer mend, before judging ANYONE, I am just glad both are ok,
-- Posted by MO on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 9:46 pm EST

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Shame on you people.. This is a person, not just a police officer.. He is obviously no criminal, so there must have been something that happened to him right before this collision. Instead of smack talking the RPD, and our officials, why not just be thankful this woman is alive and ok, and Tobin is alive as well.
And just maybe, this situation will prove to the "law" folk, that sometimes freak things do happen, and not every accident has a "bad guy" involved..
With any luck, our police officers may be just a little softer on people until they find out the whole story, now that they see one of their own can be " at the wrong place, at the wrong time" maybe they won't be so quick to judge others. Who knows, all I know is everyone has an opinion and the ones we usually get to read, are mean, nasty smack talkers, with nothing better to do than criticize everyone else..
I am glad there were no serious injuries, and I hope to not see this officer driving around town any time soon.
-- Posted by justa citizen None on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 12:42 pm EST

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what cover up? boynton stated a witness said tobin appeared to be have a seizure... READ THE FACTS!

State Trooper Adam Boynton, who is investigating the crash, said a witness said Tobin appeared to be having a seizure as he drove through the intersection. Police and city Public Works employees at the scene said Tobin was pale and unresponsive when he was pulled from the cruiser.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 12:28 pm EST

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Obviously, the RPD has already determined the cause of the crash (and covered their butts) - even before the investigation has begun: First, RPD Sgt. Sly said that:' "We have no explanation for what happened." Then he took a completely opposite approach (the butt-covering approach): "Tobin would not be cleared to return to work if there was any indication that a medical condition existed that could cause similar blackouts in the future." In other words, RPD Sgt. Sly has already determined that officer blacked out. So Sgt. Sly is not only a police sergeant but he is also a practicing physician.
-- Posted by Michael in Vermont on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 11:08 am EST

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Sorry to hear about both parties. I hope all will be well with both.

MY question is: Has RPD learned anything (Public Relations wise) in the past few months?

Will the Chief have an outside Agency (VSP) look into the events that caused this?

Will RPD release the video of the impact as they did in the Kevin Coleman case?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out now that the RPD is the issue and not
the motoring public.
-- Posted by M Mobae on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 7:01 am EST

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