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Ira crowd largely opposes wind farm



The audience directs questions to Jeffrey Wennberg at a meeting on wind power at Ira’s Town Hall on Tuesday evening.

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By Gordon Dritschilo Staff Writer - Published: July 22, 2009

IRA —Per White-Hansen and Jeffrey Wennberg fielded questions from a frequently hostile audience Tuesday.

The president and spokesman of Vermont Community Wind Farm stood before a crowd of about 80 people for more than two hours in Ira's Town Hall. The company wants to build an 80-megawatt wind farm in and around Ira and requested the meeting with townspeople.

Wennberg called it an "introductory" meeting, designed to gather early feedback and concerns to bring to their consultants while they are still in the field, doing preliminary studies on various aspects of the project.

"In the fall we'll report back, give you a chance to meet the consultants, kick the tires," he said.

Much of the feedback amounted to "go away." People in the audience held up signs opposing the project. David Potter, who represents part of Ira in the Legislature, even objected to the company's name.

"It seems the only thing Vermont Community Wind Farm has done to the community is divide it," he said, going on to take issue with the term "wind farm."

"It has nothing to do with agriculture. … What this really is, is a huge electrical-generating industrial complex."

Several people asked about the noise the turbines would create. Wennberg acknowledged noise as an issue, and said the company plans to use extensive studies and computer modeling to find how far the towers need to be from houses.

Wennberg said that while 20 percent of wind farms generate noise complaints, 80 percent do not.

"Clearly, there's a way to do it so it's not an issue," he said.

Mark Bonazinga of Tinmouth said he had read studies finding that 93 percent of people who live within a mile and half of wind towers suffered from sleep deprivation due to low frequency noise. Wennberg called the statistic "exceedingly hard to believe."

"I would encourage you and others who feel likewise to gather that information … and present it to the Public Service Board," he said. "The project will certainly comply with any requirements the PSB places on it."

Some claimed that the intermittent nature of wind power generation — the wind isn't always blowing — means that wind cannot replace fossil fuels. Wennberg said the Department of Energy and Public Service Board thought otherwise.

Wennberg also touted potential economic benefits.

He said the towers would not go on the town's education grand list, and thus not affect its status with the state. They will go on the grand list, he said, and the town would get a minimum of $11,000 per installed megawatt no matter how low the municipal tax rate dropped.

Wennberg said Act 60 makes it difficult for the town to use the money to buy down its school tax rate, but the town could send a dividend to taxpayers that they could then use to pay their school tax bills — or for anything else they want.

gordon.dritschilo@rutlandherald.com








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Hey, at least Dave Potter is getting involved. Where's Joe Baker? Doesn't he have an opinion?
-- Posted by CC None on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 2:06 pm EST

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By forcing utilities to pay .40/klw hr instead of what we pay now .04, that will be what pays for this nonsence in academic theory voted in by Potter and his classmates. Does being green have to mean destroying every habitat and bankrupting every household. There should be more available for individual energy reduction in solar hot water, more incendives for industrials to recapture energy. Blowing off mountain tops is just not the way to go. for such a small amount of capturable mgs. Mr. Thurston is correct. Why Rush, there too many consequences vs. a trickle of benefit.
-- Posted by Justn Thyme on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 1:24 pm EST

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White witch, the money being used by wind developers to pay your neighbors is my tax dollars. I would prefer them to be spent on conservation and efficiency projects that would benefit all Vermonter's who took advantage of opportunities to reduce consumption. The money being directed to wind power in Maine, for example, which is a couple years ahead of Vermont in the "wind rush", would amount to about $15,000 per household if directed toward helping individuals reduce their consumption. As it is, Maine has budgeted about $15 per household this year for such programs. Wind power is a scam. It will do nothing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions or lessen our dependence on foreign oil. In Maine the legislature has approved a plan to put 2700 MW of wind power in the mountains. It will take 1800 turbines on over 200 miles of ridges to accomplish this. Everywhere you go you will see turbines on the ridges. Massive destruction of the environment and wildlife habitat. For what? About 4.5% of the daily demand of the New England grid. We are insane if we let this happen to Vermont.
-- Posted by Stephen Thurston on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 12:41 pm EST

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We are all for wind energy but just don't put it in near our house, or in our town, or any place that we can see it because it will be an eyesore in our pristine town. This is bigger than the town of Ira. This is globally necessary to move towards alternative energy. Looks like the only wind energy in Ira will be from baked beans, smart fellers!
-- Posted by Concerned Citizen on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 12:23 pm EST

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Why not use the natural resources we have available in the State of Vermont for ALL Vermonters? In order to make using our own resources work, instead of going foreign, we must; each and every one of us, make sacrifices. This may include altering your view. If this is the only sacrifice you must make in order for it to happen, then count yourself lucky. The view you currently have is a privilege of where you live. If you don't own the mountain then you have no rights as to what happens on it. Oh, don't get me wrong. You can ***** all you want. You also have the choice to move.

I am a multi-generational native of Vermont. I absolutely LOVE the fact that we have kept it as natural and clean as we have so far. However, if putting up wind power helps other Vermonters in these difficult financial times, then I for one am for it. It's time we all put aside our own wants (which by the way are different than needs) and help our fellow neighbors across Vermont to keep from destitution. Real helping of others goes way beyond cooking a meal for a family in need and then bragging about doing it at the church social in hopes that everyone will tell you what a good person you are for helping others. It means REALLY HELPING OUT.

ARE YOU READY TO REALLY MAKE A SELF-SACRAFICE, GIVING WHERE IT WOULD MAKE AN OVERALL DIFFERENCE AND NOT JUST A DIFFERENCE IN HOW YOUR FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES VIEW. STOP GOING FOR SELF PRAISE AND REALLY GIVE ON A MUCH BROADER TERM.

For those of you shouting - save the animals - humans are animals of your own species - shouldn't we start by saving them first? I realize you won't get the recognition that you would get from saving a furry friend or bringing a dish to the church supper but, you would be helping to save your distant neighbors from poverty. STOP BEING SELFISH AND REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
-- Posted by White Witch on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 12:21 pm EST

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The sum of all this: Greenies, be careful what you wish for.

(Feel free to substitute "idealogues" for "greenies".)
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-- Posted by mark on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 10:04 am EST

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To all of these people in the "those that oppose wind power and 'the green revolution' are just resistant to change" crowd. That is embarrassing. It's my feeling that you folks are in the "I want it now! generation" that is crushing our society. I am all for finding an alternative to burning fossil fuels as is pretty much everyone in the world. I think we should pump tons of money into discovering that alternative. But there is a simple fact that there wouldn't be a wind turbine in the WORLD built if the government hadn't help pay for it. It's not the answer. Wind energy is so radically inefficient the asthetic harm that we cause is not worth the cost of production. In 30 years I don't want to be able to look across the land and see nature, not 5,10, 30 two story all man-made objects that don't produce enough energy to meet the needs of the people.

Also, those who argue that consuming less energy is an answer. Hilarious! Maybe we should start rationing energy, right? I mean, who wouldn't want to be caught in the middle of the night having a heart attack and not be able to turn the lights on in your house or get rushed to the hospital only to have the electric sliding doors not open because they are trying to cut consumption. And if you're worried about millions of tax dollars going overseas, why don't we start producing our own energy through offshore drilling? I certainly can tell you that it's going to be a while before we give up oil powered and produced products and services and it may not even be in my lifetime, so it's almost insane that we have lock ourselves out of those resources.

Being able to harness and produce energy is quite possibly the second greatest evolution of man. Any step in a direction that hinders the people in their ability to obtain affordable energy is a tragedy. If we were truely focused on sustainable, affordable, efficient outcomes, there's no way on earth you can support wind or even solar energy.
-- Posted by Arthur Hooper on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 9:44 am EST

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The profits will likely come from carbon offset credit sales. This could be a lucrative part of the business. Someone is going to benefit from carbon credit sales, why not Vermont and Rutland County. Since local residents have much to gain for the Town with no investment or risk of their own money where's the problem?

Let's give wind power a chance. If it doesn't work or there are issues, the company is responsible to remove the tower and restore the site. Remember many of the mountain tops of Ira Tinmouth and Wells still have the well casings drilled into the mountain tops where communication tower studies were performed by the State many years ago. I haven't heard complaints about the impact of those towers or the roads made for the drilling rigs, nor the frequent logging roads built into the areas over the years.

The Towns involved could require a phased in approach if you feel the project is too big. Let's stop the nay saying and give this a try. I want to be clear that I have always thought wind power is a great source of energy and lived in the shadow of Bobby Vanderminden's two wind towers in Wells for years. I actually liked the view and had no problem with any noise issue.
-- Posted by Joel Davidson on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 8:31 am EST

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YEP, its gonna be a nuclear future.
-- Posted by Joe Bradley on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 10:57 pm EST

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STephen,
You're probably right. Meanwhile, I wonder why so many Vermonters think renewable energy is the way to go-- at least they think this, until they are actually called upon to walk the talk.

But I answer my own question: they don't think. And thus VT's place as a devout "blue state" is secure.

If anyone wants to see what it looks like when Reality crashes into Ideology, take a look at the photo accompanying this story.
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-- Posted by mark on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 10:41 pm EST

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Wind power is a miss-direction of tax dollars that could be much more effectively spent on conservation and efficiency. It will require several thousand turbines to replace VT Yankee, and even then an equal amount of fossil fuel generation will have to be built for the 75% of the time when there is no wind. Hundreds of miles of formerly protected ridges will be blasted away for roads and foundations. Hundreds of miles of access roads. Hundreds of miles of new transmission corridors. It is embarrassing to contemplate what future generations will think of the succession of bad environmental choices we have made in the last century. Wind power, with its massive degradation of the last unspoiled places, will be seen as the low point in our collective stewardship of the planet.
-- Posted by Stephen Thurston on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 9:43 pm EST

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Hey Folks in case we have all forgot It Is Called SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS,,no wonder Dave and Megan are sooooo
confused,,let me see 4 cents compared to 40 cents what would my constituents rather be paying,,I know 40 plus cents,,,I really need to be re-elected there is more sticking we have to do to the people,,and they will STAND FOR IT,,,
-- Posted by angelo None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 8:27 pm EST

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2200 Windmills will only produce when there is a wind.

Such a logical move. Silly me, we all should have thought of this years ago. ROFLMAO
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 8:25 pm EST

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2200 Windmills or more to equal ONE Vermont Yankee and how much is 2200 Windmills going to cost? What kind of an eye sore is 2200 Windmills going to be?

Sounds like some people are trying to put the cart in front of the horse.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 8:23 pm EST

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What's REALLY going on here is education of the first order: A bunch of previously happy "green energy" proponents are learning what green energy actually looks like, close up.

Perhaps this is something like visiting a sausage factory.
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-- Posted by mark on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 7:03 pm EST

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Welcome to our socialistic, everything needs to be nice but not in my back yard state. We have a socialistic president that will tax carbon and every non-carbon alternative in Vt is evil. Everyone hates nuclear power, wind farms destroy the countryside, and we do not have the sun for solar. So stop wining, burn coal and oil, pollute the air and be happy. I am sick and tired of the liberal establishment that bashes the oil industry and then votes down any other alternatives. Face it - there are advantages and disadvantages to every option we have. Choose and stop compaining.
-- Posted by Allen Seiple on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 6:43 pm EST

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Drive around, talk to the people who live in the area, take a hike, look at what is proposed. Nobody thinking clearly would even consider it. Bad proposal being done by people who see $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Common sense types seem to think this will die of its own weight sooner or later.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 6:02 pm EST

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Again I know nothing about this company, their operating methods, or their end goals etc. Before I decided that any wind project was no good for my town I would want to get a lot more view points before I talked to just one person. If this company is as evil as those who oppose it say it is then that too bad. However I would ask you if it would make a difference if the nicest most honest company in the world came to town and made the same proposal? Point being....do people not want this project because of the company or because it is in their back yard.
-- Posted by Seth Strait on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 5:01 pm EST

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The entire dem team votes the party line w/o input from their constituants. They also voted in a hefty .36 hike per Kwl hour mandated purchase price to utilies for the privelege of using alternative energy resources. I guess Mr. Potter misread the consensus from his home town and is now doing a a little backpeddling. I, for one, am glad to see this legislation may never see the light of day if NIMBY syndrom takes over every county. Don't know how we'll eat if elec. bills jump from $100/mo. to $400 or more a month and I guess that is the point of our energy bill, to make the price tag so outrageous, Vermonters will die off the grid and the state will return to "Little House on the Prarie." Anything Wennberg's attached to is junk science. Isn't it an eyeopener to see how a state controlled by one party functions no different than Ira, N. Korea or Hugo Chavez. A dictatorship.
-- Posted by Curious gt on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 4:57 pm EST

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Profit is what makes the world go round. Maximum profit = greed, and that's what this wind developer is about. In Lempster, NH, some of the people on the bus trip talked to a woman who lives near the turbines and she told the group she can't sleep because of the turbines and she can't get away from them. You don't need facts and figures to know when a developer is trespassing on private property or telling the public they scaled back the project because they listened to the people when the real reason was nobody signed the astonishingly bad leases they are peddling. Sorry, folks, this isn't about wind energy in the abstract. It's downright insulting to intelligent people who live in and care about where they live. Most of you bloggers who are throwing rocks at the good people of Ira would probably be just as outraged as they are if the same thing happened where you live. Count yourselves lucky you don't. But then, who knows, another one of these types may be scouting out the mountain next to your house.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 4:49 pm EST

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I can understand how residents of Ira are concerned about this project coming into their town. However residents should be concerned for the correct reasons and not turn this proposal into a witch burning event. (Note: I know nothing about the intent or operating history of the company that is making the proposal). I think the appropriate concerns would include land access for installation, the type of and level of noise that each turbine generates, the visual impact on the surrounding land, and the economic impact of the project for the town and the state of Vermont. I can only encourage people to keep and open mind and do research into each area of concern. Unfortunately "fact and figures" can be found for each view point as there is plenty of misinformation out there. One suggestion I would make is to travel to another area that has a working wind farm. The nearest wind farm is located in Lempster NH where 12 towers are spinning away along the top of a ridge. I think the towers generate around 2 megawatts each. It would be easy enough to contact the town offices and find out what their concerns were and how the wind farm is actually impacting the town. Talk to the residents and find out if they have all become insomniac zombies due to low frequency noise etc.


A brief comment from "None None" concerning:

"Have you been to any of the meetings about this wind project? It has practically nothing to do with providing electricity to the people of Ira or Rutland County, and a lot to do with using the region's resources (like the wind) for maximum profit, the majority of which will benefit people who do not live in Ira or Rutland County."

I have not been to any of the meetings. To this I have to say DUH!! last time I checked most companies were in business in order to make profit. The company has to purchase, install, operate, and maintain the proposed wind farm. The electricity produced will go into the local grid and will be marketed accordingly. The above article does mention that the company will pay the town $11000 per megawatt hour....well by my math that works out to $880,000 to the town each year. If the town has 450 residents and they each got an equal chunk in the form a dividend they each could expect just under $2000. It should be noted that this was $11000 per installed megawatt...so if the wind farm runs at 50% of the time you still get the payment. So it looks to me like Ira has good potential to profit.

From personal experience I have stood under a 2.2 megawatt generator that was running at nearly full speed and it was installed in a soybean field in North Dakota. Standing directly under the blades there was a fair amount of wind swishing noise. However it was not so loud that a normal conversation could not have taken place. The newer wind turbine blade designs are more efficient then ever and are getting quieter with each new design. I personally find the towers to look rather majestic and look like art in motion. I also understand that wind power is not the answer to all our energy problems....at least not in its current level of operation. In the long run the true answer is not more energy production but better efficiency, conservation, and usage of what already exists. No power plant will ever equal the amount of power that can be freed up through less usage.
-- Posted by Seth Strait on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 4:40 pm EST

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The people of Ira are concerned and I can certainely understand their concern. I also would not want a wind farm in my back yard. The problem is that their Legislator thought it was a good idea and voted for it. He now sees that his constituents are against it in their back yard and in a sense is fighting (grandstanding) against it now. As an elected official before I would have voted on it in Montpelier I would have done a little soul searching and voter consultation as to whether I wanted wind mills in my backyard. If I would not and my voters would not, then I would not have voted for it. To grandstand now and even pick on the name of the farm is ridiculous. Again we pass a renewable energy bill that says to the world we are open to green business then when a green business wants to come here we scream "go away". Ridiculous.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 3:54 pm EST

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Let's look at it like this.... A whole bunch of PRIVATE land in Tinmouth & Ira= A whole lot of out of state & LOCALS that don't want people on their property. They could give a rats arss about the money... Remember the state of Vt has issued thousands of doe tags for that zone (K2) only to reap the 'free' money because all those people in those towns hate people on their land!!!!! Especially Mr. Potter who owns many, many acres in Tinmouth and Ira.... Maybe we should ask if it would be alright to put up some Oil wells??? They might go for that!!!!!
-- Posted by Article 16 Vt. Constitution on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 3:46 pm EST

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Ira-ns = Irans = People from Ira that would rather support Iran's oil driven economy and **** on the possibility of wind farms and energy independence. All because they share a common name no doubt, they are "comrades" of sorts.

Down with the evil wind towers!
-- Posted by Jamie Thomas on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 3:18 pm EST

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The childish ignorance displayed by these Ira-ites is just another reason for me to be embarrassed about being a born and raised Vermonter. It's the uneducated people who are stubborn as hell about change, and will do anything to unknowingly keep VT stuck in the recession as the state falls behind the rest of the country in the Green Energy Revolution that this country is now going through. These same people would probably prefer that we stay dependent on oil produced by terrorist friendly countries.

It would be nice if people actually got educated on the project before knocking the wind out of it politically. Rep. Potter sounds like he really hasn't done his homework on this one. I've read extensively about wind farms and most people that live around them do not mind them, and a lot of people think they are beautiful structures to look at from a distance. Besides, Ira doesn't want to benefit financially!? I know Ira's constituents are hell bent on contributing to global warming and the Earth's demise. Thanks Ira. Thanks a lot.

Maybe the state doesn't spend enough on education after all. Do they have public education in Ira? Perhaps they should get some. They should also start teaching logic classes in highschool well before college ("college", probably not in their vocab anyways.) Geez.
-- Posted by Jamie Thomas on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 3:15 pm EST

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You mean before he spoke out for it in Montpelier. Everyone will find reasons not to put in wind energy. You find it bad because its in your community. Every community is going to find it bad. So Potter was for it until it came to his community (hypocritical at best). That's what wrong with our Politicians they vote for it because the party tells them to for the grander scheme of things. Then it comes to their neighborhood and its bad. He should have taken the pulse from his voters when he voted for it, instead of waiting until its here to now take the pulse of his voters to oppose it.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 2:56 pm EST

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On the contrary, people have been kicking the tires of this proposal since April and have come to the only logical conclusion: it's a bad project. Poorly designed, poorly implemented, giving wind energy a bad name. Per White-Hansen and Jeff Wennberg are earning the public's distrust. Rep. Potter is being a leader by speaking out against this particular proposal.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 2:09 pm EST

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From our Rest Stops to new projects like the proposed windfarm-Vermont sends the message continually we are not open or friendly for business. Rep. Potter could of been a real leader here, advocating a sensible renewable energy project, and putting Rutland County on the green map. But no, only more NIMBY behavior not to mention contradictory behavior..The naysayers, with Potter in tow will battle it to the end. Hopefully Mr. Wennberg and Co. will have a fair opportunity to state their case properly and achieve some sort of consenus with the Town. It seems everybody has already made up their minds without "kicking the tires".
-- Posted by Bradford Broyles on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 1:39 pm EST

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You local Representative voted in favor of windmills. What do you mean your not in favor of them? Your local Representative said you were. Oh wait, your local Representative is also no longer in favor of them because he found out that they will be in his district. Folks be careful how you vote. Oh and by the way your local Representative also wants Vermont Yankee shut down. So as soon as you get those 60 windmills built we will need to put up another 2100 of them and thats just to equal what Vermont Yankee produces. Perhaps if we keeping driving business out of Vermont that will give us less usage and we won't need all of those windmills.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 1:22 pm EST

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Using none nones reasoning for this wind project monies benefiting those outside of Rutland County-is any new endeavor worthwhile if it does not 100% retain "profits" in the town it resides? I get the feeling many in this State want to set the time clock back to the stoneage. Not everybody can live off the gird, farm all their own food and completely disconnect from the world. It is scary that the same people that oppose Vermont Yankee also are probably aganist this wind farm. They won't be happy till we are all driving around like the Flintstones.
-- Posted by Mr. Thriller on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:56 pm EST

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The evil "profit" word from none none..Not everybody is employed by non-profit groups (even though they dominate the resume of our current legislators). Why is it that any group attempting to provide a valuable service, who happens to be capitalist in nature, is automatically a sinister outfit? There is substantial risk (that's money for you non-profit folks) involved by the developers here and why should they not be able to achieve "maximum profit"? The proposed wind energy to be generated from Ira is for Vermonters No?

Where is Potter calling for a smaller project? The guys aganist the name for goodness sake..what's next no overhead ceiling fans Dave?
-- Posted by Back Nine on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:42 pm EST

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Have you been to any of the meetings about this wind project? It has practically nothing to do with providing electricity to the people of Ira or Rutland County, and a lot to do with using the region's resources (like the wind) for maximum profit, the majority of which will benefit people who do not live in Ira or Rutland County. Rep. Potter is right to be looking out for his constituents.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:22 pm EST

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Great! More Vermonters shooting themselves in the foot.
Don't you people get that we need these things!!?? You have to look at them, so what? They creat jobs, both installation and ongoing maintenance. They make eternal power with out pollution!!
What are you thinking?
I just dont get it.
"Welcome to Vermont. No change, no future"
-- Posted by Dr. Gonzo on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:20 pm EST

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Vermont: We were green before being green was cool!

Not.

New tee-shirt suggestion: Vermont: We are hypocritical.

Or how about simply, Down with renewal energy!! Go coal! Go oil! Go nuclear!

(You Ira folks ARE intending to stay plugged into the grid, right?)

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-- Posted by mark on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 11:45 am EST

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Proposed book titles by a couple local Rutland legislators...

"How to support alternative energy sources besides wind, solar and biomass-the inconvinence of backyard politics"

by Rep. Dave Potter

"How I fooled them all" the laughable tale of running as a pro-business democrat in Vermont..

Rep. Megan Smith
-- Posted by Back Nine on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 11:39 am EST

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Have you read the legislation you're talking about? It's for small scale projects, nothing on the scale of this massive project. Here's a link to the legislation and what it says: http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2010/Acts/ACT045.pdf
"No later than September 30, 2009, put into effect, on behalf of all Vermont retail electricity providers, standard offers for qualifying SPEED resources with a plant capacity of 2.2 MW or less. These standard offers shall be available until the cumulative plant capacity of all such resources commissioned in the state that have accepted a standard offer under this subdivision (b)(2) equals or exceeds 50 MW; provided, however, that a plant owned and operated by a Vermont retail electricity provider shall count toward this 50-MW ceiling if the plant has a plant capacity of 2.2 MW or less and is commissioned on or after September 30, 2009."
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 10:42 am EST

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Back Nine so right!!! Potter voted party line, forcing utilities to buy this sh.t at .40 cents a klw. hour. They pay .04 cents now, what will his legislative support do for rate payers in Vermont?
-- Posted by Curious gt on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 10:20 am EST

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How hyprocritical is it for Rep. Dave Potter to be in the front row slamming wind power, when he indeed voted for the renewable energy bill? Maybe Mr. Potter is not aware Wind Power falls under the renewable umbrella.
-- Posted by Back Nine on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 9:27 am EST

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