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By Gordon Dritschilo Staff Writer - Published: August 15, 2009

A Superior Court jury said Friday that Fair Haven Grade School did what it was supposed to in the case of two students who said they were bullied.

Frank Venturella had sued the school, saying administrators failed to deal with the bullying his sons faced when they arrived at the school in 2003. He said the bullying drove his sons from the school, violating their rights under the Vermont Public Accommodations Act.

The jury deliberated for less than four hours Friday before finding for the school.

"Obviously, we're pleased," said John Zawistoski, the school's attorney. "The grade school in Fair Haven is a good school. The staff are dedicated to the children and do what's best for the children."

Frank Venturella said he respected the jury's decision.

"I'm just glad that I was able to hold Fair Haven's feet to the fire," he said. "It may not have risen to the level required legally, but there was still harassment and bullying."

Venturella said parents in a similar situation should document each incident with the school by certified mail.

The older of the two boys, 17-year-old Frank Venturella Jr., said before the verdict came back that he just wanted the affair to end.

"I feel bad for any newcomer who has to come to that town," he said after the verdict. "It still hangs over me, somewhat."

Frank Jr. was 11 and his brother, Vincent, was in third grade when the family moved to Fair Haven from Staten Island, N.Y. The lawsuit claimed the boys' New York accents and Vincent's speech impediment set them apart, and they quickly became targets for other children.

Complaints to school administrators brought no relief, according to the lawsuit. The family said Vincent suffered a broken tooth from a dodge ball to the face and that both boys were later diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Judge William Cohen's instructions to the jury said that to find for the plaintiff, the jury had to find that the boys were harassed so badly that they were deprived of educational opportunity, and that simple teasing or name-calling were not unlawful harassment.

The jury also had to find that the family exhausted their remedies with the school or that the school did not properly maintain of follow a policy on the issue. This requirement could be waived if the boys' health or safety were threatened, if they were in danger of retaliation, or if exhausting their options with the school were futile.

Venturella said he pulled his sons out of Fair Haven and sent them to Christ the King. Now about to start his senior year at Rutland High School, Frank Jr. said he will participate in the jazz band next year at Stafford Technical Center.

gordon.dritschilo@rutlandherald.com








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In my experience bullies are usually cowards, trying to cover the fact up by acting tough and picking on weaker or smaller kids. I had a bully hit me right in the ear at a new school. When I stopped crying enough to see all the kids laughing I got up and ran at him and went ballistic on him. As he laid there crying I heard other kids saying he got what he deserved because he was always picking on someone. I helped him up and we were friends for years after that. Moral is: you have to stand up for yourself no matter what, violence is not always the answer, but be careful bullies what you force people to do to protect themselves. You may just regret it.
-- Posted by Concerned Citizen on Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 9:22 am EST

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Sorry none none, not the case here. I don't know about the kids, but I know about me, and I am not running around hating the fact that I have kids. I love kids, and make a point to have lots of them at my house. And we are not running around stores getting in your way. And certainly not using an ebt card.

But even if we were, every human deserves to be treated with respect. THis is learned at home. When the parents fall down on the job, its left to the school and community to step in, and in this case, the school did not succeed in teaching the bull(ies) proper behavior in public places. Probably the bullies themselves are abused children at home, and are acting out against lower persons on the pecking order. And probably the parents of the bullies are at the bottom of the pecking order in their world. So parents of bullies, take a look at yourselves...

I am glad that the Venturlella family took the school to court. This might wake up the school boards and administrators as to the impact of allowing this sort of behavior to continue. I hope that the success of your children in the future allows you to look back on this as a painful lesson, and to put it in the past.
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 8:13 am EST

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these arrogant flat lander kids probably went in there, and tried to force their ways on to a pretty tight knit little community and they got what they had coming. And now their parents want to take money away from other people's kids because they are sue happy ********.

Congratulations to anyone supporting these people, you are an idiot, your kids are probably the ones that run around like little trolls inside of grocery stores and the like, and you give me a dirty look when I get sick of your little bastard child running into me. And you probably have an EBT card, using MY money to buy cigarettes and booze to cope with the fact you are stuck with these kids for 18 years.
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 7:25 am EST

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This problem has gone on since the start of man and will keep going on. How we deal with it is what we can change. As long as children feel they can report issues to adults and the adults respond fairly as outlined in policy, then we can give them the tools to defend themselves. If policy is inadequate, then change the policy. Those failing to adhere to policy should be dismissed. Unfortunately, reporting is the responsibility of the victim, as well as by the parent. Documenting times and names, is an important lesson that will serve them later in life. Perpetuating bullying is accomplished by complaints falling on deaf ears. Life is not fair, so teach your children how to protect themselves.
-- Posted by Enoch on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 11:38 pm EST

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Bullying is a problem? But little Johnny is just following the example set for him by our nations leaders, isn't he? Don't like the way General Motors is being run? Threaten the company with a loss of bailout money unless the CEO quits. Call police officers doing their jobs "stupid". Label people asking hard questions in opposition of proposed govenment programs "un-American".

I don't recall knowing too many people that weren't bullied in school. Short people, tall people, fat people, skinny people, nerds, jocks, geeks, farm kids, city kids, you name it.

I don't recall any lawsuits. I DO remember some scores being settled between buildings. I DO recall some meetings between parents and children, the school being left out of the process and the adults taking care of the problem. I DO remember a lot of character development.

Once again the entitlement mentality determines that money is due them for this problem or that problem when, in fact, they sat back and figured it was someone elses responsibility to fix the problem.

What are these kids going to do after they leave school and enter society? Are they going to sue when their co-worker beats them out of a promotion or their boss tells them they are an idiot for losing an account? What about the irate customer that calls them everything in the book? Perhaps they'll go home a cry in their latte?

Little Johnny is getting bullied? Teach him how to DEAL WITH IT! It's all a test on how to deal with life in the future.

Somehow I think that the parents could have invited the bully and even the bully's parents over and if they got to know each other maybe would have become friends. It's very common that bullying and taunting is the result of ignorance, but ignorance is easily curable (unless you are a politician).
-- Posted by Bart Logan on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 4:18 pm EST

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colleen I am fearful we all might look back in 15 years and wonder how we let so many things go wrong.I might be long gone by then but my children and grandchildren might see the rewards or possible be in a country totally different from what we see now especially the changes we have seen in the last 7 months and what might occur in the next 3 years. GOD HELP US....
-- Posted by bruce meyer on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 1:43 pm EST

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So lets talk solutions. None none wants us to let the kids fight in the hallways- except what happens when one kid kills another in a school sanctioned fight? Is the kid charged with a homocide, is the school liable? What happens if a kid who is bullied goes home and shoots himself/herself? Is the school liable for not protecting them? Is the bully (again) charged with manslaughter? You may think I am overreacting when I talk about kids dying or committing suicide, but there are multiple reports of this happening in little old Vermont. Bullying is not a matter to be laughed about in 2009.

And I apologize to Rick Toman of Goshen. 15 years ago, he told me that bullying in Vermont was a serious problem and was going to be a major issue in the near future. I thought he was crazy to be considering that, and know what? He was exactly right. So Rick, wherever you are- you were right.

So lets hear solutions folks-other than solitary confinement, expulsion and hitting each other.....
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 1:01 pm EST

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There are no winners here..Going to court and to trial costs a lot of money for each side and no one wins! The negative publicity is far reaching and reflects on the school/the administration/the teachers and the school board! It is too bad those in power did not address the real issue that that behavior by even one student is not acceptable..now or ever! The first post here by Colleen hits the nail squarely!
-- Posted by bruce meyer on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 11:25 am EST

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There are no winners here! All loosers! the fact that this has gone to trial speaks badly for the school,the teachers,the administration.Both sides have no doubt spent a lot of money going this far and no one wins..The negative publicity here is damaging to all concerned and the school basically looks like they do not care! What do they need to wake up? a real tragic event?
-- Posted by bruce meyer on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 11:04 am EST

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All this is going on in our schools even though we have added police officers in the school. Another waste of taxpayer money. I like the old days when we followed the rules or there was h_ll to pay. Where parents took the job of parenting seriously. Where schools were not socialized to the point of taken care of your childrens every need. Where a phone call to the parent was all that was needed to fix the problem. We have watered down the parents role so badly.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 11:02 am EST

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You people whining about how schools are supposed to be a safe learning environment are the reason why kids are the way they are today, spoiled little brats. You learn a very important lesson going through school, and that is how to deal with confrontation, learning how to stand up for yourself and not having mommy and daddy save their sorry arses by getting a lawyer and suing.

Pop your ti-tay out of their mouth and let them grow up, otherwise they are going to be soft little nancys all their life, and never get respect from anyone.
-- Posted by None None on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 9:25 am EST

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This is the reason why more and more parents are heading to private schools and home schooling. Trying to maintain your personal family(s) accepted behaviors in an environment where there are a wide range of other behaviors is exhausting. And I have sympathy for the teachers and administrators- if they do their job and treat the bullies as they deserve to be treated- by ostracizing them from the activity and restricting them from the class- the parents of the bully, who are often bullies themselves, come to school on attack mode.

I think schools are going to need to just build padded, video monitored rooms pretty soon, where kids who beat up other kids, or tease ceaselessly with malicious intent can be placed for the remainder of the day. After about 3 or 4 days of being in a room alone, with no entertainment and no other interaction, the bully will either stop or become so angry that further steps can be taken.

And none none, having the other kid beat the bully up does no good- it teaches the kid who WAS bullied that beating people finds success. And that does not.
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 6:11 am EST

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Bullying must be immediately and seriously addressed by teachers and administration. Bullying has such serious ramifications, I am in favor of a "one strike and you're out" policy. I know that isn't going to happen in schools because everything has to be used as "teaching moment". Okay, give the perp one "moment"; second time, expel them. Anyone who has ever been involved with bullying in any way knows that bullies do not stop doing what they do until they are made to. Hey, I have an idea--Principals and Guidance Counsellors should be paid based on how many bullies they successfully counsel to see the light and change their behavior.

Another problem: Just about every school in this country has a bully on the faculty. It is usually a male but can be a female. Typically they have been on the faculty a long time and are pretty untouchable by supervisors. Actually, they bully their supervisors as well as students and other faculty members. They bully daily, the students observe it daily, and many of the students model their behavior after this long time, respected member of the faculty.
-- Posted by SC Boy on Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 5:51 am EST

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Mary- what in God's name are you talking about? You are all over the map my friend!! Take a deep breath and try and tell us what really happened- in English this time.
-- Posted by just sayin on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 10:43 pm EST

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Recently in Fair Haven, an incident of bullying and targeting erupted into a lawsuit against the Grade School. A family had moved from Staten Island to try their luck in Vermont's countryside. Little did they know that this move would be far from pleasing or positive. A few days into the school year, their boys were victims of classic bullying and targeting for their accents. One boy even has a speech impediment that hinders his ability to speak clearly. To top it off, he had a deep Staten Island accent. Before I continue with this rant, I must say that kids these days are quite cruel to each other and have a difficult time interacting with each other.

After enough bullying, the parents decided to take action against the Fair Haven Grade School. They obtained legal counsel and filed a civil lawsuit stating that the bullying and targeting of their children caused great emotional turmoil and stress, causing their children to be removed from the school. They were seeking punitive damages. Unfortunately for the family, they did not win their case. The jury found no fault in the school district's actions in reaction to the bullying, that they had done everything they were supposed to do. I am in agreement with the jury merely because the family did not have a case. The only way they would have had a case would be IF the boys were victims of daily beatings resulting in hospitalization or severe bodily harm. Bullying happens each and every single day in schools nationwide. If Wayne Cooke, the principal at the Grade School cared enough, he would instill a better policy against bullying.

As a New Yorker, I have to take pity with the family. They moved from everything they knew to a place that did not know them. They moved to a place that did not welcome them. I know all about that. I know the struggles of not being understood. However, the case was weak and without merit. All that I can say for the family is that they care very deeply for the welfare of their children and for that, I commend them. I hope that you are able to regain some control over your new environment and hopefully will remain in Vermont. If you end up leaving, I will definitely understand that as well. This should never have happened and it only buffers my argument that Vermont should be more welcoming and neighborly to newcomers.
-- Posted by Nicholas Searles on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 12:08 pm EST

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Probably a good decision. I visited the school approximately 15 times last spring and nothing that I saw would indicate that the school is overrun with hoodlums. I agree that "bullying kids into not bullying" is not the way to go- whole school interventions that involve teachers and administrators, individual students, and student groups working together will ultimately develop an anti-bullying school environment. We have seen that in the wildly ineffective D.A.R.E. program where 5th grade students are inundated with facts and figures about the hazards of doing drugs. TOO LATE!!! Schools that get buy-In from students, faculty, staff, parents, and community, consistently assess their school climate and offer regular and meaningful trainings, and develop comprehensive policies seem to do best in this area.
-- Posted by just sayin on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 10:49 am EST

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Ironic: VT spends much school time and money holding special sessions to teach kids not to bully. Does it work to try to bully kids into not bullying? You decide.
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-- Posted by mark on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 9:44 am EST

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Maybe he should get his kids lifting some weights and then when they toughen up a little go and kick the little punks a$$e$ and maybe take a piece of slate and crack them over the head with it, bet that might stop the bullying!
-- Posted by True Vermonter on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 8:52 am EST

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Outsiders don't understand the problem with this area.

"oooohhh poor babies..."

None None,

How often does the adult citizens of your town gather together with baseball bats and head down to the local park?


It has happened in Fair Haven. The community got sick of the problems and took matters into their own hands. They beat the *&%$ out of the kids that were trouble makers in the park.

The police did nothing about it.

This is just a little history about Fair Haven. And it worked for awhile. But now people are soft. People would hate to see anything like that happen.

Guess what.. These kids know it. They know they are safer as people get softer.

It's a ****** world. Many kids will push and push until someone pushes back. If someone doesn't push back. Nothing will change.
-- Posted by CF Reality on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 8:52 am EST

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school policy, sorry. Good Day, CCF
-- Posted by Clyde Fitzgerald on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 8:28 am EST

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The judge told the jury, that simple name calling or teasing did not reach unlawful harassment. Well, I thought that the school harassment policy did not usually reach the unlawful status when dealing with this type of situation. If it hindered the child in their comfort or interfered with their learning, (which it did), then it was against SCHOL POLICY don't you think? Time for a new lawyer and a new trial and judge. Good Day,CCF hopefully! lol
-- Posted by Clyde Fitzgerald on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 8:27 am EST

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I believe that there should be cameras and audio recording devices in every school area. These would send the signal out to a central location that is neutral and who could review them when asked by a parent or staff through the selectboard/aldermen/school commission. THEN WHEN A TEACHER OR STUDENT DOES SOMETHING WRONG AND LIES ABOUT IT, THE RECORDING CAN BE RECALLED. JUST LIKE IN A CASINO. (did not mean for caps, accident). I wish the Venturellas well. Good Day, CCF
-- Posted by Clyde Fitzgerald on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 8:19 am EST

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maybe everyone should start to document and then put in writing if it is not resoved with in 1 week a law suit will be filed.
None None, the kids that were being bullied AREN'T allowed to stand up for themselves, they would get into bigger trouble. look at my son's example I posted the other day
Colleen, you are correct the student that had been threatening and bullying kids, my son included, got caught dealing drugs at school, federal offense got suspended from school after all it was his firs offense at school. now he got caught with drugs in someone else jeep and in on house arrest and he just turned 18.
sue the parents, no $$ and parents can't be in control of the kids while at school.
Teacher aren't allow to discipline anymore that has been taken away and to be honest I think schools are afraid of the bullies and their families.
I am sadden by the Jury's choice
-- Posted by Michelle Burnett on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:57 am EST

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the bottom line is this is not the only family who has had a child affected by the behavior of one or more other children in any school..It surely should be a wake up call the a school board or to and school employee..The taxpayers will have to pay the legal bills for the school but there is little compensation or satisfaction to these boys and their parents.With the high cost of education in Vermont one would hope teachers would have a better handle on cases like this.No child should have to be subjected to that type of behavior from any other student.
-- Posted by bruce meyer on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:49 am EST

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Maybe they should sue the Parents of the bullies,as their actions were intentional and directed at them specifically and not accidentally. Also, I believe the school system as a whole should have a harassment policy in force at all times. Maybe a little more research would show that the written policy and the actions of the administration were not adhered to. I cannot attest to that without actually reading the policy handbook of the school and school district. What about State Statutes? The judge should not have made it out to be just simple teasing and name calling. I bet if it were his child(ren) being harassed that he would not think it was "just simple". Sounds like the jury was lead by the judge to find for the school. Just a thought? Good luck to the kids that were harassed and maybe they will become lawyers and fight for real justice in the future. I am sorry that this stupidity is still allowed to occur in the schools, and probably with officials turning their heads when they see it. It is way past time for a change, no wonder other countries education is better, there, they want to learn in school, here, they want to waste time worrying about who is better. Good Day, CCF
-- Posted by Clyde Fitzgerald on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:43 am EST

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awww poooooor poooor babies, how does this guy expect his kids to learn how to stand up for themselves if he is just going to be a pansy and sue the school, great example you are setting for your kids, if you have a problem, tuck your tail between your legs and cry to a lawyer about it, I went to fair haven high school and know its only going to get worse for these kids...Good luck, good job trying to take money from the rest of these kids because you and yours are too scared to kick a bully right in the nuts like they deserve.
-- Posted by None None on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:40 am EST

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How sad. Johnny Z must be proud he squished another pest.
The sad fact is that bullying is a daily part of school life. It just depends on your family rank in the community as to the response.
Bullying is alive here in Johnny Z's hometown of Proctor.Little is done about it, a smack on the hand.These are the kids that are allowed to leave class and "have quiet time on the couch" or we take them "rock climbing" while the rest of the class is on task. We don't "want to hurt anyone's feelings." As a society we are surprised about the level of violence by the younger generation. Why would they stop while they are in school, the bullying power allows them to run the "halls", along with other perks. Punishment would crush their self esteem. Oh, so sad.
-- Posted by None None on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:20 am EST

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The school gets lucky, none the less it has alot of issues with all the little brats it has in its school, they should feel real proud running a family out of town!
-- Posted by True Vermonter on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:14 am EST

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I think that no one wins in this situation. Bullying is a problem in todays society and its only going to get worse until parents get involved. Don't let your kids watch wrestling on tv, or violent movies, or play letal killing games. Reality tv is nothing but bullying, where the winner is often the greatest aggressor.

What would FH be saying if either of these kids inflicted damage to themselves as a result of this abuse? Locate the bullies, and you'll find out who is going to be filling our jails in the near future.
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 7:12 am EST

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