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Police: Student drinking intensifies

College officials say problem no wrse than usual.



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By Brent Curtis Staff Writer - Published: September 16, 2009

CASTLETON — Police say they are dealing with more alcohol-related problems at the start of the college semester.

Just weeks into classes at Castleton State College, Castleton Police Officer Cheri McDermott said she has responded to a variety of alcohol-related complaints involving dozens of college students.

"I think it has been a bigger problem than I've ever seen in my four years here," McDermott said Tuesday. "It takes up way too much of our time."

The dean of students at the college disagrees with that assessment and even McDermott's boss, Police Chief Bruce Sherwin, said alcohol use among college students had contributed to no more problems this year than in previous ones.

But after spending much of her weekend dealing with back-to-back parties that resulted in criminal charges for five Castleton students, McDermott said she was frustrated by prevailing attitudes that allowed some college students to flaunt the law.

On Friday evening, McDermott was the first of many police from several agencies to arrive at 69 Crystal Meadows Road to break up a party attended by more than 100 people.

Police were called to the address by neighbors complaining about cars blocking driveways along the road.

McDermott said she called for help from state police as well as police in Fair Haven and a Poultney constable to help break up the party and check the ages of those in attendance. She said a number of underage drinking violations were issued along with court citations for enabling that were issued to five Castleton State College students who were tenants at the address. A misdemeanor enabling charge is applicable in cases where a person has sold or furnished alcohol to a person younger than 21. It carries a minimum fine of $500 and a possible prison sentence of up to two years.

Enabling citations were issued to Edward Konaski, 22; Joseph Albanese, 19; Christopher Nichols, 20; Tyler Mills, 18; and Ira Tillberg, 20.

It took police, who had to acquire a search warrant to enter the house, more than five hours to break up the party, McDermott said.

But the effects of the raid were short-lived, she said.

"The same people were all at a party on Elm Street on Saturday night," she said. "They were back at it the very next day. They don't care. It's like you're a babysitter for some of these college kids. They have no respect for anybody."

Nor was this weekend unusual, she said. During the final weekend of August, McDermott said she was called to a home on Main Street where a drunken 20-year-old college student had passed out confusing the residence for his college dorm.

"Even after we woke him up he didn't know where he was. That's how drunk he was," she said.

But while McDermott's frustrations were obvious, Sherwin said the frequency of alcohol-related incidents was no greater. What is different, the chief said, is that his department has decided to publicize its response to alcohol-related incidents more frequently.

"I think we want to let residents in the town know that we are addressing these problems," he said. "Even though we've addressed these problems just the same in the past, we didn't always release information about them."

That said, the problem hasn't gone unnoticed by residents living around the college who last year asked the Select Board to pass a local ordinance prohibiting open containers of alcohol in public places.

But Town Manager Charles Jacien said the board decided that the laws already on the books were sufficient and less prone to impinge on the civil liberties of others.

"The board reviewed the option and decided it was not a road to go down," Jacien said.

On the college's campus, Dean of Students Dennis Proulx said he was unaware of the off-campus problems reported by the police — problems he said he would like to hear about from police more often.

Disciplining students who abuse alcohol on campus, where the school serves as the students' landlords, is easier than dealing with students who get into trouble off-campus, he said.

But in cases where students' behavior makes them bad neighbors, Proulx said the school can level disciplinary probations against offenders.

"We expect our students to act as good neighbors," he said.

brent.curtis@rutlandherald.com








READER COMMENTS


Yes, everybody but Cheri McDermott is lying.

She's a regular Frank Serpico, she is. Fight the Power!
-- Posted by That Guy on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 4:06 pm EST

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Or it could be he is lying as well as the dean of students to cover their own collective arses. Nobody wants to be made to look like they aren't doing their job, or are they trying to downplay the situation for the sake of the college's reputation and community standing. Drinking or not, these kids should have more respect for their resident neighbors' property and such.
-- Posted by Concerned Citizen on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 11:02 am EST

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CC, we're talking about two different things here: underage drinking at CSC -- which has always been and always will be, just like every college campus across America (well, maybe not BYU or Oral Roberts); and THIS particular story, which involves ONE local police officer coming off of a particularly tiring weekend.

An "uncaring attitude" from her boss? No, her boss merely pointed out that the problem was no worse than normal. That means she's lying -- or, to be kinder -- exaggerating -- when she states that underage drinking is now worse than its ever been.

And, again, Brent Curtis (seeking the Big Boffo Headline, as always), doesn't help matters when he starts off the article by saying that "POLICE say...", when it's only ONE cop who has been directly contradicted by her own boss.

Don't confuse the issues. I'm not saying that underage drinking isn't as issue; I'm saying that it's pretty clear that McDermott has exaggerated the situation and that the Herald has willingly gone along for the ride in search of a Big Local Story.
-- Posted by That Guy on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 12:23 pm EST

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That Guy, You mean to tell me that you don't feel that the fact that most of these college students are drinking illegally because they are under age isn't important enough to try to stop it? An officer doing her job meets with uncaring attitude from her boss and the Dean of Students who have the most responsibility for dealing with these parties rather than dismissing them. CSC has come a long way except when dealing with drinking, especially under-age drinking. Let's just keep up the front until one or more of these students dies, which will unfortunately be the turning point, at a time too late to save them.
-- Posted by Concerned Citizen on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 11:07 am EST

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Amazing -- the word censored below is "ticked".

Too bad the Herald doesn't have a "junk journalism" censor...
-- Posted by That Guy on Fri, Sep 18, 2009, 2:06 pm EST

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After reading this article a couple of times, I've come to the conclusion that this is simply a combination of a local cop with a grudge and more bad journalism from the Rutland Herald. (Yes, I know, try to stifle your collective sense of shock.) Heck, this is the kind of stuff Brent Curtis has pulled for years: take a non-story and try to blow it up into something Really Important.

Think about it: what's the whole article really about? It's about one ******-off local cop, Cheri McDermott, whining about -- gasp! -- college students partying in a small college town. That's it! There's nothing else to see here! The dean of students says nothing's unusual about this year versus past years. Hell, even her own BOSS says nothing's unusual about this year versus past years!

So why WAS this article written in the first place? Could it possibly be that a tired, cranky, ******-off Officer McDermott, sick of dealing with these snotty college kids relatively clsoe to her own age, called the Rutland Herald to whine and vent because she felt that her boss wasn't listening?

And the Herald put her in touch with the perfect writer to make a mountain out of a molehill? The kind of "reporter" who would start an article with "Police say...", when of course it's only ONE cop, not the plural "police", who's doing the complaining -- AND that cop is being directly contradicted by her own boss?

Talk about small-town cop-and-press nonsense at its worst.
-- Posted by That Guy on Fri, Sep 18, 2009, 1:58 pm EST

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@ SB None

"Also don't forget, CSC has lowered their standards so just about anyone can get in there."

This is completely untrue. Castleton has raised its standards in the last several years in order to keep its maximum student body cap at 2,000. They turn down a LOT of folks. Especially since it has become a "hot" school. It may have had issues in the past, but since Wolk took over, the school has completely changed for the better.

But you'll still have the occasional parties that get too loud or students who drink too much and the cops get involved. But that's a very SMALL percentage.
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 2:29 pm EST

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I also have to agree with Local Export...College kids drink and that's not going to change any time soon. It may be nice to imagine a nice little Vermont town with a cute little college and everyone getting along recycling, NOT binge drinking and throwing up everywhere, but it's just not realistic. The best argument made from these comments is that if underage drinking is the main concern from police, Castleton is in pretty good shape. I'm at a college out of state and police don't waste their time issuing citations and DIVERSION tickets for underage drinking. If that's the main issue in Castleton, somebody's doing something right.
-- Posted by Jim Nasium on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 1:35 pm EST

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Well, I did move out of that college town and live perfectly happy in a small Vt. town with no college students. Obviously college=drinking...let's not forget the Middlebury College student found in the creek after walking around in a drunken stuper all night until he drowned. That my friends is one of the consequences of college parties. Also don't forget, CSC has lowered their standards so just about anyone can get in there. Maybe the reason the officer is so upset is because the students get away with underage drinking-it's all about politics. Let the officers do their job, if you're underage and drinking you're breaking the law and should be held accountable.If they're of age and drinking, don't be stupid, be responsible. After all they're our future, not very promising is it?
-- Posted by SB None on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 12:59 pm EST

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Good point, pineybrook. I have a friend who works at a college and he is fond of saying that he grows older every year and the students always stay the same age. That is not to justify underage drinking, it is just to say that if she is going to work in that setting, the officer better get used to it.
-- Posted by SC Boy on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 4:54 am EST

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Oh yeah... Forgot to mention.

We are in a recession... There are not many jobs to be had.

Many people are going back to college for more education. To get state help and be ready for when the market picks up. School enrollment is up A LOT!

Crowds will be bigger. There will be more kids and adults in college. Which will also raise the need for people to find housing. And like I said in the previous post. Many people left the state for better opportunities. Many houses that used to be residential may turn in to Frat houses.. lol.

Good luck Castleton. The fun just begun.... XD
-- Posted by CF Reality on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 4:20 am EST

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You know what...

I bet I know what the problem is.

So many people have been leaving the state. Many streets that were majority residential probably have more college tenants... Groups of friends renting homes and such.. lol.

It's not any worse than normal. It's just going to be worse for those that are not used to dealing with it.
-- Posted by CF Reality on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 1:50 am EST

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OMG... Babysitter?

LOL..

Cops are upset because they live in Vermont and don't have any real crime to deal with.

They have to bust kids drinking alcohol.

Maybe we should take their job away and say.. There you go. Not a problem for you anymore.

Case closed.
-- Posted by CF Reality on Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 1:42 am EST

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I grew up in a college town [ not castleton } and this all sounds about right. cheer up-its not drunk driving, its not fights, its not closing the streets. We get gray in the temples and think life is all about order and discipline-believe me its not in a college town.There will always be a town and gown conflict with behavior regarding drinking.it is a lot like complaining about the weather or about biting insects. I am sure the authorities dont realize they are just there to keep the herds in the fence. its life as its lived.
-- Posted by pineybrook on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 8:59 pm EST

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With football comes more drinking, nothing like tailgateing to get it started for a good drunk!
-- Posted by True Vermonter on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 7:57 pm EST

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Also, I'd hope that the Herald had the decency to follow up this article with some stats from other local colleges, too. I'm positive this isn't a strictly Castleton issue, which is the way the article pretty much comes across.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 7:37 pm EST

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Local Export is exactly right. Nothing else need be said.

I mean really, college students like drinking? This is news?
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 7:35 pm EST

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I hate to point out that you live in a college town. Castleton has been a college town since 1787. (much longer than the elderly residents) There are other places in Vermont you can live that are cute little towns with out colleges. Wallingford is nice quiet town with no college kids. Move there.
Castleton State College brings jobs to the area, money into the LOCAL economy (yes, they buy their beer from local stores)and there are many other positive programs the college does for the community. (Mentoring, volunteering, internships, etc.)
With an enrollment of over 2000, you are looking at about 5% of the students, a small percentage. Be thankful you don't have the problems larger campuses have (muggings,sexual assault, murder). If the worst thing you have to complain about is kids drinking beer, take a look at the bigger picture. Look at the 1,900 students who are working to be a good neighbor and help the community and bringing dollars to our state.
-- Posted by Kristen Sheehan on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 7:30 pm EST

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hmm, Is it that the Student Drinking has intensified....

or rather the Castleton Police woke up and stopped sitting on Main St. writing tickets to people going 3mph over the speed limit.
-- Posted by Ryan Ackerman on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 6:43 pm EST

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Vincent

Move back to Long Island if you are so tired of College students drinking and who cares if you are a retired teacher? is that suppose to mean something important? It is people like you that have made these people Adults in every since, except in being able to choose to have a beer. It seems it is fine to let them Vote, get loans, join the military and make far bigger and more important decisions than drinking.

Make it 18 for everything or make it 21 for everything, otherwise....LIVE WITH IT.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 4:16 pm EST

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I must add

Their money supports many of the businesses in the Castleton area as well as probably the complaining Police woman. Without the college, alot of revenue would dry up.

Either close the college or learn to live with the few negatives that come with the many positives of the school.

I will bet a paycheck that there has not been a single year, since the begining of Castleton college where the students didn't drink. The only difference is how parts of society view their drinking now.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 4:12 pm EST

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First off, THEY ARE NOT KIDS, THEY ARE ADULTS IN EVERY SENSE OF THE LAW, EXCEPT FOR ONE.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 4:08 pm EST

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College students drinking? Having parties? Going right back at it the next night? Is this news to anyone? I hate to dispel anyone's idealized notions of students spending all there time in the library desperately trying to consume every piece of knowledge available to them, but college drinking and partying has been a part of every college culture since the first college. Truthfully, if the only problems caused by a large population of 18-24 year olds living in very close proximity to each other with little to no supervision is noise and littering, than CSC is doing a pretty admirable job of respecting it's neighbors.
-- Posted by Local Export on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 2:50 pm EST

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It's high time the college played its proper role in addressing the problem of binge drinking. It's also high time the Dean of Discipline played his designated role in this problem. Wake up, Dean, we are in the 21st. century. I am a retired
Long Island Teacher - I am fully disgusted with college students' drinking. No one seems to want to step up to the plate and address the problem ...Could it be that it might affect their enrollment figures. College administrator now as when I was a student many, many, years ago are still living in the Moyen Age (Middle Ages)
when it come to the reality of "partying" and "academic preparation". Come out of you panelled offices and smell the coffee.
-- Posted by Vincent Foley on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 10:16 am EST

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It sounds all too familiar in a college town. I grew up in Castleton, on South Street. Since time began the students who chose to party, party in the whole town. They walk from house to house with their containers, usually a red plastic cup filling it up with each party they visit. I say it's about time the police are fed up, the residence are. I don't know how many times we've had to clean up my fathers yard because the drunks through their empties on the lawn, hell they even use your yard to make short cuts to other houses. they show absolutely no respect for the residence of Castleton, Who by the way are 80-90% elderly. It seems with the passing of every year, the students get worse. The Dean needs to wake up from his slumber on the hill and work with the police to stop the off campus nonsense before someone gets hurt.
-- Posted by SB None on Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 9:31 am EST

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