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Published: November 6, 2009

Earlier this year Gov. Rick Perry of Texas said, half seriously, that he thought Texas ought to consider seceding from the Union. It appears the Republicans of the U.S. Senate have decided to secede from the Senate.

When the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee approved climate change legislation on Thursday, no Republican was there. It was a stark demonstration of the Republicans' failure to engage seriously with the issues of the day.

Sen. Bernard Sanders, the independent from Vermont, is a member of the committee, as were his predecessors from Vermont, Sens. Robert Stafford and James Jeffords. As he works to prod the Senate to action on environmental issues, Sanders thus continues a long Vermont tradition.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, chairwoman of the committee, was forced by the Republican boycott to resort to a rule allowing for passage of the bill without the presence of Republican members so long as the committee did not amend the proposed bill. Now the bill goes to the floor where senators will pull together several proposals, including one pushed by Sens. John Kerry, Democrat; Joe Lieberman, independent; and Lindsey Graham, Republican. The House has already passed its version of climate change legislation.

Already, negotiators working on an international climate change agreement for the conference next month in Copenhagen have had to scale back their hopes because of delays by the United States. The election of President Obama had raised hopes among diplomats that Copenhagen might succeed. But delays in Congress have caused negotiators to talk about reaching a political agreement that falls short of a binding treaty.

Such an agreement would have moral force, but it would not be legally binding, causing diplomats to describe it as a step in the process, a framework for future negotiations.

Thus, the intransigence of U.S. politicians continues to thwart concerted international action, even as consensus grows among European nations, developing nations, such as China, India and Brazil, and the Obama administration. Further delay flies in the face of the ever more urgent warnings from climate scientists that concrete action is needed now because climate change is happening more quickly than they anticipated.

Several strains in American politics continue to block action.. There is the know-nothing element that spurns scientific evidence, best exemplified by Sen. James Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma, who calls global warming a "hoax." There is the power of self-interest that causes fossil fuel industries, utilities and others to oppose action because it will imperil their profits. There is the timidity of politicians afraid to lead because their constituents may not yet fully grasp the immensity of the problem.

The Obama administration understands that the problem of global warming also creates opportunities. Thus, Obama's energy program includes money to stimulate the creation of jobs in green technology in order to create energy efficiency and curb greenhouse gas emissions. Vermont has already learned it will receive $69 million in stimulus money to help the state's electric utilities adopt Smart Grid technology in order to improve the efficiency of the state's electrical power industry.

These initiatives will create thousands of jobs throughout the country. These changes have inspired opposition from sectors, such as the coal industry, which stand to lose jobs. And it is a fact: The point is to avoid burning coal and oil as much as possible or to burn it with technologies that reduce harmful emissions. The planet requires that we leave coal in the ground or extract it at a slower pace. Our senators need to be willing to stand up and say as much.

Sanders understands the nature of the problem. "Our challenge is to move toward energy independence and energy efficiency and sustainable energy by substantially reducing greenhouse emissions and, in the process, creating millions of good-paying jobs," he said following the committee vote.

Diplomats are swallowing hard and preparing themselves to expect less because of inaction by the United States. Congress is pressing ahead despite the abdication of responsibility by Republicans. The world is waiting for us. Earth itself is not waiting.








READER COMMENTS


So, how exactly, should someone participate in a legislative process intended to "fix" a problem that has a significant chance of not being a significant problem, using methods that are virtually 100% likely to kill our economy?

There are many significant scientific problems with AGW theory which are yet to be explained. Prof. Jefferys comments not withstanding. Just Google for articles by Richard S. Lindzen, a professor in MIT's Earth and Planetary Science Department.

A rush to apply politics to an unproven theory should be a sign to all of us that it has nothing to do with the science, and everything to do with the politics. This treaty fiasco is nothing more than a way to transfer wealth from the industrial world to the non-industrial world. World class welfare payments under the auspices of a world-controlling "government". That is a far more worrisome fact for my children and grandchildren's future than anything the Warmers have dreamed up.

I think that someday this will all be much clearer to us, since the truth is hard to hide for ever. And when that day comes, the Democrats of this country had better have a place to hide from their treason.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 8:22 am EST

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To help cure global warming that great democratic crusader Al Gore helped a company he's involved in procure a $500 million dollar government loan to produce...now get this....$90,000 electric cars...now get this again...in friggin Finland.

There have been at least six confirmed ice ages which means the climate cooled down at least six times and warmed back up at least six times. The ice ages occur approximately 30,000 years apart and it's been 15,000 since the last. During the dark ages, a 400 year period that started around 1200 AD, the earths average temperature declined by 5 degrees which resulted in shortened summers and longer winters causing massive crop failures, starvation and desease that killed off 30% of the worlds population. Also another little tidbit of scientific data, over 99% of all life that has ever walked the earth is now extinct. But don't let facts stand in the way when there's trillions of tax payer dollars to be made, or spent.

Question, can anyone answer how much energy the sun showers the earth with each day? Would you believe more than all that produced by mankind in it's entire time on earth?
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, 6:24 pm EST

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Just for you notta

You only had to type "31,478 American scientists" into google.

I note you didn't mention the first link that had the petition where you can view the names and get all th einfo you would like. Nah! Notta Airhead felt by selecting the second link and making a silly comment, it would hold some sort of hidden meaning.

Facts are facts regardless who publishes them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=14000

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul537.html

http://www.resistnet.com/group/watchdogforcapandtradebill/forum/topics/31478-american-scientists-have

http://www.peacefreedomprosperity.com/?p=1464

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/A72AAA76-BED9-4631-9D2D-BA7309AA6AC9/

I am sure Notta, you can do your own research and here is something for you to consider as well.

"Polar bears survived a warm period about 125,000 years ago, when sea level was 12 to 18 feet (4 to 6 meters) higher than it is now and trees lived above the Arctic Circle, the scientists point out."


If you want to take some time out from bashing and making a total arse of yourself, you could do some research and find out we are actually heading into another ICE AGE.

I know, Notta loves to smirk and never reveal his such supreme sources. ROFLMAO
-- Posted by Name Change on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, 3:58 pm EST

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

You actually used World Net Daily as a source? Wow!

Seen any spaceships landing in the Green Mountains lately? Ever been abducted and questioned by extraterrestrials? Were your momma and daddy really humans or ...?

Can you produce proof that you aren't from Kenya? Or the planet ZX-54321?

World Net Daily! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Good one! I'm ready for some football after that one! You're funnier than Shannon Sharpe!

(Gee, I wonder which characters you played here in your earlier incarnations) ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, 11:56 am EST

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http://www.petitionproject.org/

"31,478 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs"

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=64734

"More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties have signed a petition rejecting "global warming," the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth's climate.

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate," the petition states. "Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

"The Petition Project actually was launched nearly 10 years ago, when the first few thousand signatures were assembled. Then, between 1999 and 2007, the list of signatures grew gradually without any special effort or campaign."

Why would a Republican join in such a Farce? If Nature is behind Global Warming what can man do with a Bill? ROFLMAO I know give another Nobel Prize to another Liberal Quack.
-- Posted by Name Change on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 7:13 pm EST

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Oh and Notta I finally figured out what "BJ" stands for. Bush is a Jerk
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 3:08 pm EST

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A buddy of mine from Denver and I have been going back and forth about global warming for some time. I finally got him to stop claiming that global warming was caused by anything but human carbon production. I asked him if he remembered the titration experiments in high school chemistry, where you carefully measured what you were adding to a solution in order to get a desired chemical rx. Usually, this was a change in the color of the solution. He had to admit that this makes sense. Maybe human carbon production is not the only cause of global warming, but it may, in fact, be the straw that breaks the environmental camels back.
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 3:02 pm EST

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William's point #5 is important, even if you do not believe that we're causing climate change through burning fossil fuels, we are multiplying much faster than our reserves are (because they aren't), and the abundance of these fuels lies under endangered habitats, as well as under nations that hate us.
And Notta, you can always use Ubuntu.
-- Posted by concerned citizen on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 2:36 pm EST

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Yahoo! The wicked witch is dead! Or at least will no longer use MS products, Apple etc.
-- Posted by bud kafer Jr. on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 1:56 pm EST

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Way to go, "bud." I'm going to follow your lead and stop using any product or service from which someone else got rich. We'll show that Al Gore guy, as our world runs out of carbon-based fuel and humans disappear from the earth.

So, no more using Microsoft products for me; no more buying Sony products; no riding on railroads or airplanes. No riding in cars either!

Take that, Al!

Thanks, bud.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 12:35 pm EST

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Eric, I agree with your last post. There are too many conflicting ' scientific facts" that repute one another. So, when I add my 'faith', I have huge doubts when I read of all the $ Gore has made since promoting global warming and stands again to reap more $ thru his ongoing green investments. His response has been, "Since when is it wrong to invest and make $?" Well, for quite some time according to the many lib/dems in DC. I read that Pelosi's husband has huge investments in alternative energy. My faith in the political bandwagon is not there. I will let the scientists debate this perhaps until hell freezes over?
-- Posted by bud kafer Jr. on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, 7:07 am EST

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@Eric Stanson,

I happen to be a professional scientist, and I can tell real science from pretend science.

Point #1. Science (as opposed to mathematics) cannot "prove" anything. The best it can do is to give probabilities. Do you want to wager your grandchildren's future against a probability of 90%, given by the best science that we currently know, that "maybe there isn't a problem that we can do something about?" If you are willing to take such odds, then in my opinion you are foolhardy.

Point #2. Mr. Potter's article the week before in the Valley Reporter claimed to show that there is nothing to worry about, based on a "reprint" of an article that pretended to be an article published in PNAS (Publications of the National Academy of Sciences), that was in fact never published in that journal or any other refereed journal. In other words, it was a propaganda piece, not a scientific publication. I've looked at a lot of the global warming propaganda, and much of it is similar to this. I've even received such pretend "reprints" myself over the past decade, because (being a scientist and professor at a major university) you get on mailing lists.

Point #3. Yes, there are natural causes of climate change as well. The problem with your speculation is that there is ample evidence that the natural drivers of climate change currently in effect (e.g., solar activity...I am an astronomer by profession) are insufficient to explain what we observe. But, including the carbon dioxide that we have introduced into the atmosphere does a much better job of explaining the data. Your speculation is insufficient to explain the data we are faced with.

Point #4. Do you really want to risk your grandchildren's future in the face of these facts?

Point #5. Even if the carbon dioxide hypothesis is incorrect, we are going to run out of oil sooner rather than later. We will be forced to make major changes in how we run the world. Or, we (or our grandchildren) will die.

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-- Posted by William Jefferys on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 7:50 pm EST

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I have concerns about the costs of using much less efficient non-carbon energy sources which as far as I can tell could lead to substantial inflation and thus cause a great deal of world hardship and suffering. The cutting edge of this debate is on whether or not greater "good" comes from inefficient deployment of capital to subsidize less efficient enrgy sources to marginally slow down warming, maybe, or if that capital could do greater good by say providing iodized salt to impoverised peoples (lack of iodized salt causes all sorts of brain and IQ deficits for indiginous peoples) or non carbon emitting cooking fuels (many indiginous burn animal dung and/or charcoal for cooking fires). Seach "Copenhagen" at Esquire.com for an nice concise article entitled "Mr. Gore your solution to Global Warming is Wrong" on the evolving debate.

Agreed though that it is regretable that Republicans did not participate in the legislation, if only because they perhaps could have made it less junky and porky.
-- Posted by Matt Anderson on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 4:17 pm EST

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Thanks William,

I may have to change my tune since one of my heroes, Dr. Hawkeye Pierce, feels differently about this subject than I do. ;-))

I've gotta wonder how Colonel Potter and Hotlips Houlihan feel about it too!. Thanks again for the very revealing article.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 12:52 pm EST

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faith versus science...

does anybody truly believe that with the limited amount of data we have as compared to the lifetime of the planet that the hypothesis of human caused global warming can be either proven or disproven? The link provided by William jeffrey's claims a reliability rate of 90%! With data that covers less than 1% of the earth's timeline this is a ludicrous assumption...

If you want to accept on faith that bad gases create bad effects...so be it...but for EITHER SIDE to claim scientific reliability in the face of the lack of data is irresponsible...

I mean...Arizona was the ocean not long ago...we had ice ages not long ago...

in the end...science can not prove or disprove global warming any more than they can prove or disprove the existence of god...

faith is required...the opposite of science!
-- Posted by Eric Stanson on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 12:45 pm EST

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Dear Notta,

In support of what you wrote, the Valley Reporter this week had an excellent article refuting in detail some of this trashy so-called "science", which was the subject of an article the previous week by a global warming denier. You will find it a pleasure to read:

http://www.valleyreporter.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2776&Itemid=59

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-- Posted by William Jefferys on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 12:14 pm EST

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So I guess Mr editor, if we do not agree with global warming we are idiots. Uhm guess the right to free speech is over or the right to question the government. Oh yeah your precious president and senators and congressmen blasted us for not supporting the stimulus because unemployment would go to 8.5% oops now at 10.2 brilliant. What you say about that Mr editor or is it to painful to swallow!! Where is your outrage on that?
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 10:55 am EST

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Hey NS62, I've seen those articles too. Mostly they're published in those trashy newspapers you see in the checkout lines of supermarkets, along side of stories about spacemen taking over the US railroad system for mobile baby-cloning labs or some Hollywood beauty gaining 350 pounds in one month and then shedding all that weight in less than a week after marrying a southeast Asian lizard. HEY! It could happen ...
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 10:08 am EST

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I have seen a number of articals written by scientific experts who have found flaws in the whole global warning theory. I have heard some pretty convincing arguments against some of the stuff that the senate is proposing. It seems that everyone who disagrees with the wonderful albert is regarded as unqualified no matter how qualified they may have been before the discussion began.

Republicans ought to do what Obama did most of the time ....vote present.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, 7:55 am EST

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