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By Gordon Dritschilo STAFF WRITER - Published: January 20, 2010

BRANDON — One school of thought holds that a proposed Hannaford would be great for downtown.

Another considers it a potential disaster.

Both notions were in evidence Monday as representatives of Hannaford appeared before about 70 people at the Otter Valley Union High School auditorium.

The supermarket would serve as an anchor tenant at a proposed shopping center at the corner of Route 7 and Nickerson Road. The proposal is before the Development Review Board.

Last month, Hannaford announced it would buy the Grand Union in downtown Brandon, along with another Grand Union elsewhere in the state. A spokesman for the company said they planned to run the store as a Hannaford until the new facility opened and then move down the road.

"It's been demonstrated to us the viability of downtown is threatened when you have a strip mall at the edge of town," resident Buzz Racine told the company's representatives. "We'd love to have you, but we'd love to have you in town."

Several others echoed the latter sentiment, and some asked the store's representatives why they could not stay downtown if they were buying the Grand Union.

Lisa Miller, Hannaford's vice president for real estate development, told the audience that the company saw the purchase as an opportunity to get to know the community and develop a core group of employees. She said they hope to finalize the deal and start business in early March.

Miller said while the company had no intention of staying in the spot, it would have to "re-evaluate" if the new facility were denied permits. They did not think a shop that size was economically viable, she said, though the two years they expect to be there awaiting the new facility could give them evidence to the contrary.

Resident Nancy Jakiela said if people were so concerned about losing the Grand Union, they should have been shopping there. She said she and many other people she knows go out of town for better prices, quality and selection.

"A lot of us who are pro-Hannaford are not here tonight," she said.

A handful of people argued that the supermarket would keep people in town who, like Jakiela, are leaving to shop and perhaps even pull in people from surrounding towns who do not wish to deal with the traffic in Rutland or Middlebury.

Even if the proposed site is outside the town, they said, it seemed close enough that downtown businesses should benefit.

While she would not discuss specifics, Miller said, Hannaford's market research indicates Brandon can easily support the store they want to build and they had been looking at the area for a while. She said they had rejected the northern part of town as too problematic and saw no other viable sites.

Also when asked if the company might reconsider based on public reaction to the proposal, she said Hannaford had made a legal commitment to the site south of town.

gordon.dritschilo@rutlandherald.com








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The reason I keep mentioning Target is that its a well known retailer which carries affordable merchandise and is a step above the usual discount store. Please feel free to insert the words "Cabellas", "Bass Pro Shop" "Pier One Import" or any number of successful chain stores. The idea is to turn Brandon into a destination. Hannafords will tell you that their stores rarely do well when standing individually- i.e. the former Rutland location. They need a supporting store to turn them into the place to stop.
Has anyone asked Hannafords if they wanted to sell the GU, after opening the new store, to the local farmers market for a year round locale?
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 7:04 pm EST

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I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Bill McCabe, the developer of this project. This is a huge investment (more than 8 million). He has been looking at all the various possible locations for over two years. He has had several studies done and from those studies and his own investigating, he states the proposed site is the best (perhaps the only) location. I found him to be honest and willing to answer any questions and he also provided me with his business card and email address should I have any more questions or suggestions.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 5:01 pm EST

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People who live on the southern side of Middlebury and south to Brandon, do NOT like to fight the lights in Middlebury. Hit the traffice there sometime.

Brandon would attract Salisbury, Kampersville, Forest Dale, Pittsford, Chittenden, people from Rochester and Hancock, Shoreham, Hubbardton, Bomoseen, Orwell, Whiting, Leicester and all the surrounding areas. People woul dnot have to deal with the lights and ski traffic of Rutland nor the traffic and college events in Middlebury.


South of Brandon has plenty of room for future expansion and will ease the traffic congestion in Brandon. The first shopping area in Rutland was the Green Mountain Plaza and it was and still is the most successful of all of them. It was there years before the downtown plaza or the Rutland Mall or the Diamond Run or Tenny brook etc. It has flourished and done so by bring a lot of business to the downtown area.

Brandon has homes mixed with business in the downtown area and who wants to deal with traffic all of the time? South of Brandon will keep the food shoppers in the one area and draw people North of Brandon through Brandon. IT will draw peopl efrom the south as well and keep the people in the Brandon area that normally ar eleaving the area, from leaving the area. That is a lot of INCREASE in traffic for the streets of Brandon to handle when they already hate the truck traffic.

I think South is by far the best choice. That will save parking for the downtown businesses.
-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 4:09 pm EST

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If the free market is left alone quality products will be rewarded. People travel long distances to purchase a quality product or have an excellent experience. Give us quality AND value and I will come!
-- Posted by Sir Parley on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 2:49 pm EST

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Most of these big box retailers require a certain population within a certain mile radius. I don't know what Target's is but I doubt that Brandon, Rutland and Middlebury combined have the population necessary for them to even consider such a store. Now I don't think Walmart has as strict restrictions. Maybe somebody here knows the requirements.
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 2:00 pm EST

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Colleen
You make a great point and you've mentioned Target several times. I agree. I would love to see a Target! But in reality do you really think the town would allow a Target?? It would have to be large enough for them to be attracted here. It would draw people into Brandon especially since there are no Targets in the entire State of Vermont. What we clearly need to keep people in town is a store that offers the everyday items that we all drive to Rutland to get becaus no store in Brandon has it. At one point (back in the 80's) you could buy your clothes downtown. Business was booming then. The busineses Evan mentioned aren't a huge draw to the downtown. I support local business but I don't find myself shopping downtown all that often because there are not many stores that offer what I need.. An occasional stop at the hardware store, a once in a while pizza, or a haircut every few months is all I go to town for. There is plenty of parking now though!
I seriously think a proposed Target would be shot down real quick. Too bad though. But at least we could start with a Hannafords and I think people would see people are staying in town more, thus stimulating downtown sales but probably not by much because liked I said there isn't much there anymore.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 10:05 am EST

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Brandon needs a draw- to become a destination trip for consumers. The only way to do that is to include a store which is not readily available in the area- if Hannafords wants to go in, fine, but think of a draw. Evan is right- people will not be driving from Middlebury and Rutland to go to a grocery store that already exists in their own town. But, they would drive for a different store, and thats why Brandons influentials should be pushing to lure Target to town. That would be a draw from the North and the South, and over the mountain. If you are going to build it, fill it with viable businesses- not more empty fronts.
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 9:39 am EST

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The current situation is what it is, but we still have the basic amenities downtown that can be supported and even thrive if we had that additional draw:

- hardware store
- pharmacy (Hannaford intends to include one - why not fold in the existing Rite Aid rather than force them out of business as well?)
- hair salon/ barber shop
- bank
- restaurants
- vet
- book store
- ice cream shop
- novelties
- etc

I think all these businesses would see an increase in business if the Hannaford is downtown - not so sure folks would still venture into town if they then have to drive from the strip mall.

I would think that by having the Hannaford downtown, many other businesses would see this now as an attractive place to locate - I don't believe they will otherwise.

Downtowns become empty shells when strip mall - sprawl is allowed the develop outside of towns. The Plaza develop would simply foster that dynamic and we would see continued sprawl marching down Route 7.

Mark my words
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 9:29 am EST

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The problem with shopping downtown is there isn't much there to shop for.
It was mentioned in a recent article that there are currently 8 empty storefronts. We have seen businesses start up and then fold within a few short years over and over. No matter where the physical location of the new Hannafords is, I think it would bring people into the downtown and stimulate their sales. If built at the proposed location and people shop there, they may want to go into town IF they have something to offer. It's less than a mile away. But the downtown needs to find businesses that will attract shoppers. Unfortunately there isn't much space for any new business to start up in the stores that are currently empty and I'm not even sure how reasonable the rent is.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 8:54 am EST

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People in Middlebury will not drive to Brandon to go grocery shopping (get real!)

They already have 4 supermarkets to choose from.

There are no more businesses south of the center of Brandon to drive past, save the Green Mountain garage to cater to so that argument doesn't hold water.

With the realignment of Route 7 through downtown, all traffic will be routed to go DIRECTLY past the existing Rite Aid. Hannford should buy out the Rite Aid, raze the existing GU and combine parcels. This will allow for ample parking and a decent sized new building. Once parked at the Hannaford, folks can EASILY then walk to other businesses in the downtown area.

We have at present a unique resource in the downtown that many towns don't have - a pedestrian friendly and inviting town center.

Why not capitalize on that? A strip mall south of town will do absolutely nothing to retain that character, and in fact will change Brandon to become like every other town that now has a ghost town center because sprawl development was allowed to occur and require a vehicle only means of transit.

That will change the community spirit in Brandon not to mention the viability of businesses that still exist in the downtown area.
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 8:25 am EST

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Name Change

I believe it was determined that the proposed location is the only option for a big store with plenty of parking.
And the new Route 7 is going to continue into the town and also further south of the town. For some reason, they are starting the new Route 7 project in the middle. .
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 7:46 am EST

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People in Middlebury, who have nothing much more than Brandon, but have more population and more revenue will be FORCED to drive through the entire town of Brandon, past all of the businesses to get to the Hannafords.

This way everyone from the North has to drive ENTIRELY through town. Many from the South will proceed to parts of the town.

If built in the middle. People from the North will not be forced to drive ALL THE WAY though and PAST all of the businesses and either will the people from the South.

Think about it, there will be MORE traffic past all the businesses if built South of Brandon.

Why not build the Target just North of the Shell McDonalds?
-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 6:55 am EST

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i do not live in brandon but
have spent a lot of time there over the years
#1 there is no parking to speak of in the center of town which is why there is
no revenue comming into brandon so the downtown is dead
lack of parking and over priced rent does not help the small businesses
#3 the GU there sucks
#4 people complain about OMYA TRUCKS move back to where you came from
#5 maybe just maybe if this place was built small buiz could to afford
to stay in Brandon sure it's not big busisnes but a start.
#6 if people want to lose revenue for the town than get rid of OMYA TRUCKS and
all the small buisness then try to bring in industral complexes with no ammenitys
for the people deal with sorry but art gallerys and cozy B&B'S do not cut the mustard in brandon.
-- Posted by jerry carleton on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 5:28 pm EST

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My wife and I do shop Brandon. We consider Cafe Provence and chef Roberts' bakery a special occasion treat as we can't afford eating out that much. Now we drive to Middlebury for Hannafords and TJ Maxx as well as the Coop. We are excited about having a Hannafords closer by than Middlebury or Rutland. Colleens idea for a Target would be an added draw.
The problem with all these plans is one that every town faces. There is not enough space for the kind of development needed to make a go of it in retail in town centers. So logically developers have to go to the edge of town. This is what's going on wherever retail store are being developed in the USA. So get with it Brandon and don't let this opportunity pass you by.
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 5:12 pm EST

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NoneNone, couldn't agree more, but every time ANY kind of development is introduced it seems the naysayers come out of the woodwork to voice their opposition because it will destroy Vermont's wonderful (but jobless) aesthetics. Look at the outcry and axe-grinding over this benign project. We've even got one curmudgeon crying about somebody benefiting by receiving "free" rock as landfill. When it's been reduced to moaning about free rock, you know it's hit rock bottom!
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 4:40 pm EST

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This is all we need. Another low paying, no benefit and go nowhere jobs.

We need industry people! Not supermarkets and strip malls!!!!
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 12:34 pm EST

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Hey Fire for Effect -

In case you didn't notice, "Minutes of DRB hearings are not posted online. Only minutes of DRB meetings are posted online. Minutes of hearings are available in the Brandon Town Office."

Do you attend these hearings? Obviously not, or you would've known that!

Ann Marie - I am really not trying to be combative with you and appreciate your perspectives and as well as offering my own. My point to you was that you seem to have a quick response to everyone's post out there - which I find amusing. That's why I question your role out there, but have appreciated your insights.

I do not post here for the purpose of bashing others - but also think it's funny that those who criticize are also quick to bash without speaking to the issues here.

The points I have made are specific to this project and for the long term benefit of the Brandon community - which is what is really at stake here.

Again - I will reiterate my support for Hannaford moving to town.

My concern (as I have expressed before) is the process by which that happens, and counter to what "name change" indicates, I have offered alternatives to how that could occur, if Hannaford is truly inetersted in working with the community (and may I suggest that we not continue to foster this polarized dynamic), then they would consider these other options that may alleviate or at least address the concerns that have been raised.

Thanks for considering my perspective!
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 11:18 am EST

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Evan, you may have attended all the meetings but I didn't see any evidence of you having presented any of your concerns to the DRB in their meetng minutes for the past year. Did I miss that or do you reserve your "speaking out" against Mr. Baker to these online forums?

http://www.town.brandon.vt.us/Minutes/2009/minutes_2009_all.htm
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:59 am EST

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Evan
Let me introduce you to SOTG and NoneNoneOne......
I think you may have some similarities and might enjoy their posts as they are
combative with other posters too.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:58 am EST

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Paging people who need a psuedonym to hide behind - get a life!

FYI - I have and will continue to attend each DRB hearing on this issue.

I have and will continue to make the case that there are conflicts of interest of parties involved.

I am not shy about making those points known, nor am I a conspiracy theorist!

No apologies needed.
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:43 am EST

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I am not a Brandon resident, but if you want to draw people to town, you need a reason. The art thing was interesting, but didn't work- hence so many empty storefronts. MAking Brandon a destination town is a good idea; mid-way between Middlebury (which has limited, middle and low income shopping venues) and Rutland- but you have to have what people want to buy, and what they can actually afford.

Look for something different that cannot be found in Vermont- (i.e. Target) and people will come to it. I am not saying that Hannafords shouldn't be there- I think the strong arm tactics were a little overboard, but thats their choice. Just saying, if you are building a new facility, fill it with viable storefronts that won't be empty within a couple of years. And this could be an attractive proposal to that company- a new Rte 7, a new grocery store, accessibility to the interstate via Rutland and up the improved 7....

Of course, if I were really committed to this project, I would be speaking at meetings, rather than mouthing off on a blog, but its an interesting thought.....
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:41 am EST

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Thank you Name Change.

I have only offered information that I know, not speculation.

There are stories circulating about Mr. Baker that are untrue and I think if people are really interested in this project, they should know the truth. And no, I'm not Richard Baker in disguise!!
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:35 am EST

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Evan

Unlike you, Ann Marie has brought information from the meetings she has attended etc.

There are usually two side of a coin and she has voiced hers as I have mine. You on the other hand, offered NOThing either for or against, instead you felt you would better serve the people of Brandon by bashing a poster.

The children's forums can be found at other sites go there. Try to leave Adult conversations to the adults.
-- Posted by Name Change on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:20 am EST

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Paging Evan Smith...The Brandon Development Review Board will meet on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 7 pm at the Brandon Senior Citizen's Center to consider the following matters involving your friend, Mr. Baker:

To reopen a public hearing for Applicant: Brandon Plaza Associates, LLC. Landowners: Richard Baker, Douglas & Gerry Cummings, Teddy Tire Sales & Service, Inc. (Theodore A Trudeau), and Michael McClay. The purpose of this hearing is to receive evidence for local Act 250 review of the municipal impacts of the application from above-referenced parties for the construction of a 53,000 square foot commercial retail development which will include a 36,000 square foot supermarket, 12,000 square foot of in-line small stores and a 5,000 square foot out-building with associated paved surfaces including a 295 space parking lot and utilities. Proposed Location: 21 Nickerson Road and 723, 763 and 795 Franklin Street. Application #5156. Tax Map #s: Baker: 21 Nickerson Rd. tax map #25-50-86; 18.18 acres; Cummings: 723 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-78; .66 acres; Teddy Tire Sales & Service, Inc.: 763 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-79; .80 acres; McClay: 795 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-80; .45 acres.

To reopen a public hearing for Applicant: Brandon Plaza Associates, LLC. Landowners: Richard Baker, Douglas & Gerry Cummings, Teddy Tire Sales & Service, Inc. (Theodore A Trudeau), and Michael McClay. Conditional Use request. Proposed Location: 21 Nickerson Road and 723, 763 and 795 Franklin Street. Application #5155. Tax Map #s: Baker: 21 Nickerson Rd. tax map #25-50-86; 18.18 acres; Cummings: 723 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-78; .66 acres; Teddy Tire Sales & Service, Inc.: 763 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-79; .80 acres; McClay: 795 Franklin St. tax map #25-50-80; .45 acres

You are cordially invited to participate and level your accusations in open forum...
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 9:50 am EST

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uh, sorry Evan.

I won't respond to your posts anymore if it upsets you that much. I was just trying to help inform you of what was happening in case you didn't have some info. No I'm not trying to play spokesperson. That's why I offered you contact information
for Mr. McCabe. I did make the effort to find out as much as I could and was only
offering information I knew to be fact.
Have a nice day and again, I'm sorry.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 9:25 am EST

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Ann Marie

Have you have become the self-appointed voice of Brandon and Hannafords? - getting a little commission on the side? You seem to feel the need to respond to every post with the "I'm here to tell you the correct info" on each issue that has been raised.

Perhaps you need to run against Mr Baker for the selectboard - or perhaps you are Mr. Baker in disguise...

Either way, I'm thinking that Hannaford should appoint you as their Brandon spoksperson, as that's clearly the role you're playing on this forum!
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 9:12 am EST

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Colleen
There are alot of people that would love to see a Target. It's just never even mentioned because we all know there would be an even bigger group of
protester's. I would like to see it too, but I wouldn't even dare say the word
for fear I would have to suffer some of the same treatment the Hannaford's
proponents do. How can we continue to keep Brandon a depressed area
if we bring in new business? Our property taxes are over the top yet we
have nothing here.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:59 am EST

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Name Change
Some people just have blinders on and can't see the big picture. A new and better grocery store will keep people here and also attract people from the surrounding towns that are currently going to Rutland and Middlebury to do their shopping.
It could also stimulate sales for some of the downtown shops. Businesses downtown are dying because everyone is leaving town to do their grocery shopping and they tend to pick up other items at the same time. And I can't think of a better time to bring more revenue into the town and state. And those that refer to the new project as a strip mall are wrong about that. I have seen the drawings and it is going to be tastefully done.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:23 am EST

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Target, Target Target.
That would be a draw for Brandon. There are no Target stores in Vermont. I travel to Wilton NY or Queensbury to go to Target, and wind up running into people from Vermont that I know who also make the trip! This would be a draw for Brandon-grocery stores are everywhere but having a chain like Target would draw people from Rutland and Middlebury- even Burlington- to the town of Brandon. That would only help the other stores in town.

Blue Seal remains my favorite store in Brandon- with great service and a wide variety of products that a person actually needs. Other stores in town should follow their example.
-- Posted by Colleen Wright on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:22 am EST

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Let them build.

Do not congest the downtown any further. Freedom of traffic flow will benefit all businesses. People will enjoy going to Brandon and the OMYA trucks would not cause the problems that some claim that they do, if their is less traffic.

People who shop Grand Union now hassle with the other traffic and the other traffic hassles with them. IF Brandon wants a larger store and maybe other stores as well, then build and allow Brandon to comfortably grow.

We need jobs, why would we close Rite Aid and G.U. to open one store?

Anyone who wants to shop the center of Brandon will do so and a larger store South of town will attract from all over and keep the business in Brandon. If you include all the people that currently go to Rutland and Middlebury and add them to the people going to G.U. in Brandon, that is a lot of people, more than the narrow streets of Brandon can handle and still give ample parking to the other local businesses.
-- Posted by Name Change on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 6:32 am EST

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Evan
Mr. Baker is an elected official for this town and if you are a resident and have any questions or concerns about the Route 7 project or the Hannaford's project, I think he would be willing to hear them or answer any questions you might have.
He could inform you better than I. I have spoken with him several times but I don't feel qualified to tell you the details of what is happening with his property. The shopping center isn't just being built on his property. There are also three other property owners and they may also be willing to answer any questions about both projects if you're interested. When this information first came out, I made it a point to gather as much information as I could about the new grocery store and the impact it would have on the town. I believe it would be beneficial to the town as it would create jobs, better shopping and increased tax revenue.
I have also spoken with Bill McCabe, the developer of the shopping center and found him to be most helpful with questions I had about his project. I could provide you with his contact information if you would like.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 1:36 pm EST

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So Ann

You're telling me that Mr. Baker will not benefit at all from having AOT - contractors (literally) set up shop at his property on the corner of Route 7 and Nickerson Road. The storage of equipment, the stock-piling of materials, the location of their project trailer? His role on the Rutland TAC and selectboard and influence on this project reeks of conflict if you ask me.

I'm all for a Hannaford moving to town, but undue influence on how the project unfolds is unfair and a misrepresentation to the people of Brandon, many of which both support the GU and a new Hannafords. I wouldn't be so quick to paint this as a black and white picture as you appear to do.
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 11:20 am EST

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Sounds like you've already happily divided yourself from some of your fellow town residents, Anne Marie.

-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 10:20 am EST
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Thank you for your concern SOTG. Actually when I come across people that protest the project, I make it a point not to discuss the issue with them. They are entitled to their opinion however they are not entitled to be rude and threatening.
Slow day for you on the other forums??
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 10:46 am EST

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Evan
Mr. Baker is not receiving the blasted rock. The rock is going to be used for the new Route 7. I heard this directly from the people who were doing the blasting.
It is just going to sit on Mr. Baker's property until they are ready to use it.
Several studies have been done in trying to find the right location for the new Hannafords and the only space that will accommodate them is the proposed location. I believe it was determined that RiteAid wishes to stay where they
are and continue to operate there. They have a good following of customers there and are doing well. And the Hannaford's people are doing their best in trying to work with the local people. Like I said, it's just a handful that are opposed.

Jason you are correct about Mr. Racine having a personal issue with Mr. Baker.
And that is why Mr. Racine is bending over backwards to stop this project.
He did do a lousy job for the town and did not hold his position for very long.
He and a few others really should be ashamed by their behavior. I can only
hope that the cast of characters in this project see that Brandon does have
some wonderful people in it. But I guess wherever you go, you may find a
few rotten eggs and I think Hannaford's has probably seen this type of thing
before.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 10:41 am EST

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Just another display of the xenophobic attitude of the Vermonter... Eventually we'll be bringing back the sheep.. Take back Vermont!!!!!!
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 10:22 am EST

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"It's embarrassing to call these people our neighbors."

"If this small group of immature residents are succesful in driving away a new grocery store, it will divide this town."

Sounds like you've already happily divided yourself from some of your fellow town residents, Anne Marie.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 10:20 am EST

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Perhaps what Hannaford could consider is to also acquire the Rite Aid property - between the existing GU and the adjoining lot (and remember that there is a significant amount of space behind Rite Aid), there should be sufficient space to build a good-sized Hannaford (inlclude the pharamacy within) at that location (with adequate parking).

The problem with the strip mall south of town is that there is no garantee that suitable tenants can be found to fill the other store fronts given that there are already empty storefronts in the downtown. If the Hannaford folks are truly interested in working with Brandonites, they'd think a bit more out of the box and look to strengthen the downtown area.

While Mr. Baker is certainly within his rights to develop his property as he sees fit, I find issue with the fact that he represents Brandon on the Rutland TAC (Transportation Advisory Committee) - which is informing the Route 7 upgrade project. Mr. Baker is now receiving the blasted ledge rock from the Route 7 project as (free!) clean fill on his property to accomodate the Hannaford Plaza. That, and his continued role as Vice-Chair on the Brandon Selectboard is more than a conflict of interest in my opinion.
-- Posted by Evan Smith on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 9:40 am EST

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Ann Marie has made many great points. I want to share a few of my own now.
The Town of Brandon needs to wake up and learn that we need businesses to locate here after the loss of so much in the last two or three years. Mr. Racine kills me with his remarks and attitude. It appears to be personal between he and Mr. Baker. Mr Racine left the job for which in my opinion as Ecopnimc Developemnet person for Brandon he did a lousy job. Then he took on Mr. Baker in the race for Select Bopard. Miss Jakiela is correct many in favor are not going to show up at this forum but will shop at Hannafords. This forum is in my opinion a way for those opposed to try to make the public believe there is more support againt Hannafords new store than staying downtown. The days of a viable supermarket the size of the current G U just are not there. It is telling that Hannafords is buying TWO G U stores in different communities. It shows that G U DOES NOT want to be in the grocery business. The headlines in this story shows also the bias of the Rutland Herald. Indeed there is rarely a unanimous proposal for any developement anywhere. However the paper needs to show better judgement before making it appear as though the town is divided when only 70 people appeared at this forum. Many times it is the vocal minority that go and voice their opinions will little fact. And those wishing to hear the details and truth stay home and read the local papers. The article does little tomtell the public about the plans and design of the building and Hannafords plans for employment and so on. I wonder is Hannafords going to build a "gree"building for example. This information and more would have been great to be able to read. Are the current G U employees going to be offered jobs at Hannafords and such? How much of this type of discussion was held at this forum? Brandon unless we wake up and work with companies seeking to do business in Brandon the vacant locations downtown will just get larger. No not every business might be right for Brandon. However we need to work with these people and not just be against everything.
-- Posted by jason Hardband on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 9:17 am EST

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I wish those that are opposed (a small group of people) could open their eyes and see if Hannaford's were to stay at the current GU locaton they would not survive there any better than the GU has. There is no place in town for Hannafords to build a store that is large enough. The proposed location is less than one mile from the center of town. I continue to be amazed by the behavior of those opposing a new grocery store. Not only do they not get the real picture, they have
been most unwelcoming to the developer of this project and the Hannaford's people. In fact, they have been down right rude to them and have made it a point to actually harrass these people outside of the meetings. Is that how we want others to view the people of Brandon? I would like to say welcome to Hannafords and let them know not all of the residents in this town behaves the way the opposers have. It's embarrassing to call these people our neighbors. It continues to amaze me the time, money and energy they have poured into stopping a new business that is so needed from coming to town. Not only is the State of Vermont dying due to lack of revenue, so is the town of Brandon and that's because they are unwelcoming to new business and not very friendly to those that are remaining.
It's very telling what the people want when you see the petitions circulating around town. There are more than 1,000 signatures in favor and less than 50 opposed. The less than 50 opposed do not represent the majority of us. The majority of the people in this town are wonderful people and are always welcoming to everyone. If this small group of immature residents are succesful in driving away a new grocery store, it will divide this town.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 7:20 am EST

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