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STAFF REPORT - Published: January 20, 2010

DENVER — The holding company for MediaNews Group Inc. newspapers, including The Denver Post and two Vermont daily newspapers, says it plans to file for bankruptcy protection.

Affiliated Media Inc. said last week it would file a "prepackaged" plan already approved by lenders, which should allow it to emerge from bankruptcy more quickly.

It would be at least the 13th bankruptcy filing by a U.S. newspaper publisher in the past 13 months. The owners of dozens of newspapers have been pushed into bankruptcy protection as the recession and competition from the Internet have sapped advertising revenue.

The company owns 54 daily newspapers and more than 100 non-daily newspapers, Web sites, television and radio broadcasters.

According to the MediaNews Group Web site, Vermont holdings include the Bennington Banner, Brattleboro Reformer, The Manchester Journal, Bellows Falls Town Crier and The Original Vermont Observer.

MediaNews also owns 13 papers in Massachusetts including the Lowell Sun.

Affiliated Media's Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing illustrates the uncertainty facing major newspapers publishers as their main source of income — print advertising — has plunged during the past four years.

Since 2005, the industry's annual ad sales have dropped by more than $20 billion, a decline of about 40 percent, based on figures from the Newspaper Association of America.

MediaNews' management and newspaper operations, employees and vendors won't be affected by the holding company's restructuring, MediaNews Group Chairman and CEO William Dean Singleton said.

He is the chairman of The Associated Press board of directors.

A date for the filing hasn't been announced, but the company said it would be in the near future. The reorganization plan was expected to be filed in federal bankruptcy court in Delaware.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.








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Oh, one last thing, BN: I'll keep your "usual nonsense" comment in mind the next twelve hundred times ksw or Robert Stannard have something to say about Entergy or VY... and all you do, over and over and over again, is make a feeble crack about them being "paid lobbyists". (We GET it already, for Chrissakes.)

But, hey... at least you're still here. Wendy "Only When Her Lips Move" Wilton and Jim "Entergy? La la la la I Can't HEAR You" Eckhardt appear to have fled the premises. Wise choice...
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 3:51 pm EST

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That's it, Back Nine? "Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins, just you wait?" Jeez, I thought you'd come up with something better than that.

Oh, by the way, here's how it works: the person who ISN'T complaining about the Vermont Legislature ISN'T the one who has to justify his or her position. The majority votes don't need to justify their positions to the angry, tea-partying minority.

Get it?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 3:45 pm EST

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SOTG, you and your cohorts just keep marching down the plank..November will be here soon enough and then you can guage how influential different groups are..Again, in your 1000's of delirious posts, notta one do you contribute anything to the discussion. Just your 4th grade school yard BS day after day....Just once I'd love to see you tell the audience what legislation and legislators you think are serving the people well..I'm sure you'll come back with your usual nonsense, just I'll keep asking..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 4:46 pm EST

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"There are some members that are not listed for reasons of their own."

That can't possibly be true. Who on Earth WOULDN'T want their names tied to your wonderfully effective, completely nonpartisan organization?

I expect a correction is forthcoming, yes?

"Since you are on our website check out the poll we conducted last summer the results might shock you or not."

Oh, you mean the "Pole Results" (good one!) listed on your homepage of your "non-partisan" "pole" through wethepeoplevt.org -- a website apparently created only to conduct a "pole" on behalf of the RCPBC?

OK, I'll bite. How could I NOT be interested in a scientific, utterly unbiased, statistically accurate survey completely owned by the RCPBC in which only those people who've ever even HEARD of "wethepeoplevt.org" through the RCPBC can vote as many times as they like by, you know, clicking something?

[sound of SOTG moseying over to the RCPBC's shell survey website]

Oh my goodness! In a shocking turn of events, the vast majority of your respondents think their tax money isn't being spent well, that taxes are too high in the first place, that they don't like the state legislature and they don't represent their "wishes" and are too "liberal", that Douglas is doin' OK, that too many poor people get too many tax dollars, that hardly any of 'em are Democrats, and that an Independent Party sounds like a swell idea.

I am blown away. I NEVER would have expected these kids of responses from the 702 people the PCPBC told about the "pole".

Well, that certainly changes everything. Thank you, Jim "Vermont Yankee? Never Heard Of It" Eckhardt, for enlightening us all.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 12:40 pm EST

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AIR AMERICA GONE TOO!
gee what a surprise
-- Posted by Take Back Vermont from Progressive Libs on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 7:49 pm EST

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Wurdy, First, thank you for visiting the website. The bylaws are correct. The Members list is made up of those members that don't mind being listed. There are some members that are not listed for reasons of their own. The only error in the members list is Kevin Coleman who was a member until he won an Alderman seat. The day after the election he was sent an email stating that he could no longer participate. He understands that. Our Web master has just not removed him yet. We continue to gain new members from both parties but the majority of our members are Independents.

Our main goal is to educate the people of Rutland County as to what is happening in Montpelier and how that effects business. We strongly believe that the way out of this recession is through an improved business climate. When business is doing well they pay more taxes. These taxes would be used to provide for reasonable social programs.

Are you happy with the way this State has been going? Since you are on our website check out the poll we conducted last summer the results might shock you or not. Have a great weekend.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 7:37 pm EST

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Liberal Newspapers are <yawn> ....boring
-- Posted by Take Back Vermont from Progressive Libs on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 7:18 pm EST

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Hey Ex-vermonter, what town were you in?
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 6:24 pm EST

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x vermonter cypher:

ALL media outlets are biased. Name one that is NOT!
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 6:01 pm EST

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Does anyone else here think it's no coincidence that most of the talk is about the election in Mass yet none of the most dicussed letters addressed that subject. It seems the RH isn't worried about being an unbiased media outlet.

When I was in town today there was a man carrying signs saying throw them all out in November...love it.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 4:57 pm EST

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The reason SOTG and the rest of the Liberals are so bent out of shape now. If you had a week like this, you'd be a little defensive as well...

Monday-Washington Post/ABC News poll showed only 41% say President Obama improved race relations

Tuesday-Scott Brown 52 Martha Coakley 47

Dems spent $1.4 million on last minute ads. Republicans spent zip.

Wednesday- Jim Webb: I'll be the 41st Senator on Obamacare

Byron Dorgan: "Oh and forget about cap and trade, too".

UN: We lied about the Himalayans to promote Global Warming

Thursday- Supreme Court gutted Mccain-Feingold-and a 102 year old ban on corporate campaign donations

Friday- oh and Ben Bernanke won't be re-nominated

AIR America is gone. Forever.

Michael Barone: "If republicans run as strongly as Brown, only 103 House Democrats are safe"

But at least President Obama was able to get Gitmo closed on time, oops not so much..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:48 pm EST

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It's a beautiful day at Okemo and Killington. Any Joe recognizes that now don't you think? People, go outside and enjoy the day..That's an order!
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:31 pm EST

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"'Better yet, why don't you go work for Steve Howard running for LG. You both seem so close in so many ways..'

Just referencing policy and off the charts liberal attitude..Nothing more..Little paranoid are we?"

back·ped·al (bkpdl)
intr.v. back·ped·aled or back·ped·alled, back·ped·al·ing or back·ped·al·ling, back·ped·als
1. To move the pedals of a bicycle or similar vehicle backward, especially to apply a brake.
2. To move backward by taking short quick steps, as in boxing or football.
3. To retreat or withdraw from a position or attitude: The senator later backpedaled on the issue.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:28 pm EST

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"SOTG, You have no idea just how much people like you are helping to drive the RCPBC. Keep up the good work."

Well, Jimbo, I sure am glad to hear that ONE of us is "driving" the RCPBC!

How's that legislative success rate coming along?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:26 pm EST

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"Better yet, why don't you go work for Steve Howard running for LG. You both seem so close in so many ways.."

Just referencing policy and off the charts liberal attitude..Nothing more..Little paranoid are we?
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:25 pm EST

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"While many people use a pseudonym to post, for some (like SOTG) it beomes a license to be immature and attack others personally. Jim Eckhardt doesn't stoop to that level, he keeps it about the issues and gains respect for doing so. It's all about the karma, man. SOTG, your tank is way low, my friend."

Jim Eckhardt has been caught in numerous lies on these forums.

Jim Eckhardt's also now on record saying that it's OK for special interest groups to buy votes, as long as those special interests are from Vermont.

I would be delighted to reiterate this instances for you, over and over and over again, right here on a public forum. Whaddya think? Take me up on the offer, Wendy? I'm sure that neither Jim nor his alias would mind, wouldn't you, Jimmy?

Hmmm. Let's see...

SOTG = low "karmic" levels;

Wendy Wilton = proven liar through her own repeated comments on this forum.

I think I'll take the so-called "low karma", Wendy.

"However, if newspapers are not willing to cover the news of the day, as was so aptly pointed out..."

I can't decide if you're being deliberately disingenuous -- your apparent professional stock in trade -- or if you're really clueless enough to believe that the Rutland Herald didn't "cover" the Massachusetts story.

Nah. Sadly, I suspect that you really are that thick-headed. Ah, well.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:23 pm EST

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"Better yet, why don't you go work for Steve Howard running for LG. You both seem so close in so many ways.."

In case anyone's wondering, Back Nine Eckhardt means that the people who disagree with him are all just a bunch o' homos.

Give him a hand, ladies and gentlemen! Ain't he great?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 2:16 pm EST

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Dude:

Ms. Wilton is free to comment and respond to statements posted here in any fashion she wishes.

Her selective distaste of SOTG's comments is unsettling:

"While many people use a pseudonym to post, for some (like SOTG) it beomes a license to be immature and attack others personally."

When individuals post comments that might be considered "immature" and "attack others personally" and yet coincide with Ms. Wilton's and your political world view, do you find it any less or more offensive than those of SOTG to which you take exception? Do you or Ms. Wilton take exception to the many ad hominem comments posted here which align themselves with your politics? NOT!!!

The First Amendment does not protect speech of some. It protects the speech of all.

If truth be told, a vast majority of the garbage posted here by those of the left and the right might aptly be labelled as "immature" and ad hominem in nature.

That said, it is testament to this great nation that we are afforded a right and privilege that allows us to make horses as**s of ourselves.
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 12:34 pm EST

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Mr. Eckhardt:

Is this listing correct?

http://www.rcpbc.com/members-rutland-county-pro-business-coalition.php

Is this statement from the RCBC By Laws still in force:

"A sitting publicly elected official may not become a member and may be asked to suspend membership in the Organization if elected but not limited to School Board Member, Selectperson, Alderperson, Mayor, State Representative (Town, City, County, State), Senator, Treasurer, or any other elected office that may be defined by the Organization, for a period as long as he or she remains a publicly elected official."

Is there any inconsistency between the membership list and the statement from the RCPBC By-Laws?

Thanks
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 11:44 am EST

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Ms.Wilton:

It is a no brainer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603272.html

Please note the following sentence in the article:

"Almost without exception, the circulation gainers are the nation's smallest daily newspapers, which tend to focus almost all of their limited resources on highly local news that is not covered by larger outside organizations. Also, these papers tend to have a lock on local ad markets."
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 11:27 am EST

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SOTG, You have no idea just how much people like you are helping to drive the RCPBC. Keep up the good work.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 11:16 am EST

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My Karma is just fine on this Saturday, AM, while I am enjoying my coffee at home. Still looking for responses and discussion re: newspaper valuations and loss of readership...what, no takers to discuss the financial and marketing issues of the media industry?
-- Posted by Wendy Wilton on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 10:05 am EST

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"SOTG, do you get a shiver up your leg when Chris Matthew's show comes on? 3 posts in a row from you, looks like you need some friends..Why don't you hook up with your shrinking audience and get them to throw in a post or two so your not so lonely out here. Your hayday is in the rearview mirrow, and that must be hard to come to grips with..Fun to watch the left implode right in front of our eyes. Keep up the good work, your our best help."

-- Posted by Back Nine on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 11:38 am EST

Anyone have any more comments re: immaturity and ad hominem arguments?

For those in positions of political leadership, it might be prudent to take a mulligan than put fingers to keyboard. It's all about the karma.
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 9:43 am EST

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So Wurdy Smith, your post below touts the importance of the 1st Amendment and then in the next breath you tell Wendy Wilton to not comment on the newspaper story on a Saturday morning when she is not working...Man you liberals have had such a bad week your punch drunk. Get some sleep. Next week will be better for you, there are no elections scheduled..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 9:37 am EST

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"Anonymous communications have an important place in our political and social discourse. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. A much-cited 1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission reads:

Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society." Quoted from the Electronic Frontier Foundation web site

With all due respect, Ms. Wilton should concern herself with counting Rutland City's beans and not commenting on issues of constitutional moment.
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 9:13 am EST

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While many people use a pseudonym to post, for some (like SOTG) it beomes a license to be immature and attack others personally. Jim Eckhardt doesn't stoop to that level, he keeps it about the issues and gains respect for doing so. It's all about the karma, man. SOTG, your tank is way low, my friend.

Getting back to the article above, this may be good news for the Rutland Herald as the Herald could cover the areas now served by those papers. However, it would mean a great deal of work, funding and restructuring to make it happen and given that the print version is an ever-shrinking publication that would be a tough challenge, especially in this economy. Does anybody out there know what the current factor is for assessing the value of a newspaper based on advertising revenues? For radio it used to be 3 to 5 times annual ad $ for valuation, not sure what it is now or how newspapers trade compared to other media biz...

However, if newspapers are not willing to cover the news of the day, as was so aptly pointed out, no amount of capital infusion or slick marketing can rescue a gaff like that. Seven Days, led by Shay Totten, has trounced the traditional VT media outlets in covering some stories they will not which illustrates the bias and the old boy network alive and well in VT's media. No wonder most newspapers are losing readership...
-- Posted by Wendy Wilton on Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 8:50 am EST

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Ex-vermonter None, the Rutland County Pro Business Coalition is well over 100 businesses strong..This year old group, with Jim Eckhardt's leadership, has galvinized the small business community to get involved with legislation that effects our well being. It's not only the 100 plus business leaders who are paying attention now, but for many of our members, they have their employees paying attention (and will be voting) for candidates who support small business as well. So when SOTG spouts his gibberish about Jim Eckhardt, just remember his group has given a voice to hundreds and hundreds of local people who will VOTE for common sense fiscal responsible people. The elections in the city are very close and his group is one of a few that will turn the tide this year. Keep the faith..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 10:15 pm EST

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Once again, you've done yourself a disservice by speaking in public. Silence worked better for you, big guy... although you still provide reams of entertainment whenever you open your mouth and spew forth another "wait, WHAT did he just say?" comment.

-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 6:28 pm EST

"Big guy" SOTG sure seems to have it in bad for Jim, what did you do turn her down at the bar one night Jim? Nothing worse than an ugly woman scorned.

She sure gives a lot of attention to a group she proclaims to be irrevelent. Methinks she doth protests too loudly!
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 8:58 pm EST

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Stevie howard for LG??? what a joke....

can you imagine this (I wont say) a heart beat away form the governorship?
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 8:03 pm EST

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SOTG, why don't you ask Rutland City legislators how irrevalant the business coalition is? I love it when you start chomping at the bit and repeat post after post..Your about as desperate as Chokely was leading up to her pummeling..Maybe you can get Chris Matthews to come to Rutland and pump up your brain dead anti-business delegation your so enchanted with. Better yet, why don't you go work for Steve Howard running for LG. You both seem so close in so many ways..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 7:22 pm EST

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"'Angry unemployed embittered semi-literate right-wing tea partiers tend to watch more TV news -- or more TV, in general'?

What an elitist, 'I'm smarter than all of you' attitude."

No, actually, the truth. Sorry that it hurts so much!

"MJ What the h-ell are you talking about. Is it wrong to wait and see what kind of senator Brown makes before we start calling him names. You are being kind of mean-spirited aren't you?"

MJ is mockingly paraphrasing GLENN BECK, of all people. Ah, the irony...
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 6:35 pm EST

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"Here SOTG http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=11860953. Oh wait, why bother, someone has already made your mind up for you."

This is your definition of waiting to see "how the information comes out from here on"? Hearing the very next words out of Entergy's mouth and taking them for gospel? Wow, what a gullible schmuck...

Here, you forgot the video to go with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgic
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 6:32 pm EST

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"As for VY, things change everyday. None of us had any idea about some of the issues that have come out lately."

You're a lot of things, Jim Eckhardt, but I never took you for an unprincipled coward, judging which way the wind blows before choosing his position (or hiding from an issue entirely).

Pathetic. Your business group is doomed to continued irrelevance as long as you're at the helm. Just plain sad.

Once again, you've done yourself a disservice by speaking in public. Silence worked better for you, big guy... although you still provide reams of entertainment whenever you open your mouth and spew forth another "wait, WHAT did he just say?" comment.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 6:28 pm EST

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"Angry unemployed embittered semi-literate right-wing tea partiers tend to watch more TV news -- or more TV, in general"?

What an elitist, 'I'm smarter than all of you' attitude. This is the attitude of the dopes in Montpelier and Washington DC. and thats why the country is in such bad shape. Everything the congress or the state legislature puts their fingers into is screwed up.

MJ What the h-ell are you talking about. Is it wrong to wait and see what kind of senator Brown makes before we start calling him names. You are being kind of mean-spirited aren't you?
-- Posted by northstar62 on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 5:09 pm EST

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interesting thought MJ...glenn beck said the same thing and EVERYONE thinks he is off his rocker...evne most republicans....

but that being said...the only dead body from that senate seat to the best of my knowledge was found in the back of dead Ted's car....remember???

dead Ted must be SPINNIGNIN HIS GRAVE!!!
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 4:35 pm EST

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Scott Brown? The pervert hasn't even been seated yet and the creep-o-meter on him has already risen as much as Name Change's. Mark my words, a dead intern will wind up in his office before year's end...
-- Posted by M J on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 4:26 pm EST

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"Hayday"? Sorry, no. Never farmed.

-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 1:06 pm EST

What she means is she never worked a real job in her life
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 4:22 pm EST

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The liberal media is in shambles. Add up cable tv ratings, NBC, Air America and the dying liberal newspapers and it translates to a horrible business model. If all these folks barely survive or die off when Barack Obama is President, where will they be when the tide sweeps them out to sea in November?

Take Air America, going out of business is fine. Their filing bankruptcy is irresponsible for a program promoting ideas embraced by billionaires like George Soros. For all those left with unpaid invoices, they can point to how big government ideas hurt good citizens.

Here are the Cable TV ratings from the other night.

Fow News Channel 1,922,000 Viewers
CNN 688,000 viewers
MSNBC 289,000 viewers
CNBC 214, 000 viewers
Headline news (CNN) 315,000

SOTG, keep on drinking your KoolAid, your suggestion that only angry unemployed right wingers are watching Fox is laughably incorrect. If you actually looked at the demographics for all the above, you would run into the facts and lord knows you don't want those around here.

Lastly, many local businesses refuse to advertise or purchase the Rutland Herald due to their perceived slant to the far left. The Herald, with their termendous family owned history, would be wise to offer both sides of political thought, it would be good for their bottom line and more importantly, good for Rutland's readers.
-- Posted by Back Nine on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 2:40 pm EST

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SOTG..and others that havent had a chance to enjoy Howard the Sreamer and Chris, shivers down my leg, argue about SCOTT BROWN"s LANDSLIDe..here you go

this is INCREDIBLE to watch these 2 moron liberals yella t each oither...OUTSTANDING again Howard..you are such an EMBARRASSMENT to VERMONT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p-9hkdZSEE
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 2:13 pm EST

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Here SOTG http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=11860953. Oh wait, why bother, someone has already made your mind up for you.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 1:23 pm EST

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As we can see that loss in Mass. effected some people a lot more then others.
As for VY, things change everyday. None of us had any idea about some of the issues that have come out lately. The difference is you joined a socialist drum beat on VY. Don't act like you knew any of the new information. You just joined the drumbeat of your leader. I will still wait to see how the information comes out from here on and form my own opinion.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 1:18 pm EST

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Hey, Jimbo, speaking of "waking up" and "paying attention".. what are your thoughts on the latest developments at Vermont Yankee?

I still can't quite believe that the president of the Rutland County Pro-Business Coalition (motto: "Yesssss, Masssster") has gone completely and utterly silent on a business he adamantly and constantly defended until just a few weeks ago.

Or maybe you've just now "woken up" and started to "pay attention" to the subject?

Or maybe you're just a coward without the courage of your own convictions?

Or maybe you're just a rent-a-cop hack in over his head?

In which case, why should anyone bother listening to a thing you have to say?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 1:11 pm EST

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"Your hayday is in the rearview mirrow"

"Hayday"? Sorry, no. Never farmed.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 1:06 pm EST

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I am happy that Obama won the Presidency. Its exactly what this country needed to wake up the Independents to the socialist agenda. Maybe now the majority of the people of this country will start to pay attention to our politicians.
-- Posted by Jim Eckhardt on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 12:51 pm EST

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Mad (at the world) Max, you say you've "made it", but the tenor of your wounded bear posts tells us all that you don't "have it made"! It's apparent that the root of your anger lies in the wounds inflicted on you by the incompetence of a tin-ear administration that has not only failed to succeed at anything in its first year in office, but has now alienated the block of independent voters that elected them in the first place. Hope and change. Hope and change...

Hope isn't a method and the change you're going to be left with (having "made it" of course) won't buy you a cup of coffee.
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 12:37 pm EST

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SOTG, do you get a shiver up your leg when Chris Matthew's show comes on? 3 posts in a row from you, looks like you need some friends..Why don't you hook up with your shrinking audience and get them to throw in a post or two so your not so lonely out here. Your hayday is in the rearview mirrow, and that must be hard to come to grips with..Fun to watch the left implode right in front of our eyes. Keep up the good work, your our best help..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 11:38 am EST

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thanks SOTG..now you the self proclaimed, font of knowledge, knows who LEN BRITTON is....your mentioning him helps the cause...Thanks again
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 11:35 am EST

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"It is also kind of interesting that FOX news seems to have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined."

Angry unemployed embittered semi-literate right-wing tea partiers tend to watch more TV news -- or more TV, in general?

Shocked, yes, shocked, I am.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 11:23 am EST

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"And I am LOVING the publicity LEN BRITTON is getting."

What publicity?

A Google News search reveals TWO hits in the past MONTH -- and that includes right-wing websites, too. His Twitter feed has all of 36 followers. His Facebook page has all of 387 fans.

Am I missing something? Other than the right-wing echo chamber here, of course?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 11:13 am EST

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Max if you are such an entrepreneur, why do you hate capitalism so much? You decry the "free market" in one breath and then tout your accomplishment of building your own business from the ground up......... huh??? That doesn't make much sense. How much of all your wealth do you give to the needy? Okay let me think, I want to make sure I understand where you stand so far....

-Hates GOP'ers
-Hates "dick/bush
-Hates the baby Jesus
-Hates Capitalism/Free Market
-Hates "conservative crackers", oops that's just another term for those GOP'ers.

Did I miss anything?
-- Posted by David Randall on Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 12:21 am EST

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I just saw that AirAmerica is going to file for bankruptcy.....again. I guess that in the free market of ideas liberal thought just doesn't turn a profit. I guess no one wants to buy the product.

I'm sure that there are those out there who will say that the govt. needs to subsidise this station in order to provide a counterpoint to the limbaugh or hannity shows. The problem is that obviously people want to listen to those two and no one listens to AirAmerica.

I guess it's a good thing that Franken got out and got a day job before his creation collapsed around his ears. I heard the Algore TV network is in trouble as well.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:54 pm EST

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Some of the posters here seem to forget that the Democrats have controlled congress for the last three years (Congress makes the laws and passes them) and as such is largely to blame for the nations troubles. If a Congress can't get it figured out in three years, time for them to go. So Mad, don't blame it all on the conservatives, the lefties had a great deal to do with the mess we are in. Also, do you need a ride to the ward you got away from?
-- Posted by No More on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:47 pm EST

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I've read through these posts and am trying to figure out what they have to do with newspapers going out of business.

News is a comodity like any other and someone who has a product that is worthwhile and desirable they will succeed and do well in a free society. If they are not desired they will go out of busiess. It is only in socialist nations where you can produce products that no one wants and still stay in business subsidised by Government handouts.

It is also kind of interesting that FOX news seems to have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined. It seems that if you expose the corrupt activities of acorn or the sexual misconduct of john edwards you aren't a real news network. Somehow I kind of think that the reverse is true.

Do the people have the right to know that John Edwards or Gov. Sanford are sleezy, untrustworthy punks? I think they do FOX covered both stories from the start. The others covered Sanford but held off on Edwards till they had no choice but to start to report it.. News fair and balanced.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:34 pm EST

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Nice 364 day Socialism experiment Mad Max..I'd be angry too if I were you..November is the grand game changer. Enjoy the rest of the season..your a piece of work. SOTG's little bro?
-- Posted by Back Nine on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:01 pm EST

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Back Nine?

Back Nine?


That's what I thought.

It must suck to have all your ideology and political base propped up on outdated social views, hate, and misunderstanding of the world that is too complex for you to grasp...no wonder you GOPers are so FED up with things (even though you had the catbird seat for EIGHT YEARS and did nothing of value and left the country in enough of a shambles to get a, sshh whisper, socialist elected to the White House.

Later loser.
-- Posted by Mad Max on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 7:38 pm EST

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Read this and share it with everyone you know:
http://www.oilempire.us/dots.html
-- Posted by Jamie Thomas on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 7:31 pm EST

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I love the post directing us to take advice from the French on American media...You said it brillantly nonenone one.LMAO on that one..

Hugo is calling you, I think his power is out again..
-- Posted by Back Nine on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 7:31 pm EST

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Ahhh. Yet another thought filled (did you really say Gayrald? wow) retort from the "ex-vermontster none".

No one said that anyone has to become destitute in order to be in civil service...

Tell me, Dr., just what do you surmise would be the point of a wealthy, successful person entering politics, joining the Dems and trying to make sure all Americans get affordable health care, education and civil liberties not bound by religious tenets? Wherein is the ulterior motive?

It is easy to see the ulterior motives of the Right, either economically (greed) or socially (uptight religious intolerance), but what exactly is the Liberal conspiracy all about, if in fact led by the Rich themselves?

Why does a rich man like, say, Obama (rich, really?) or Kennedy have to gain from increasing wealth taxes, limiting corporate exploitation of the laborforce and making Govt work for the people instead of corporations in terms of health care, medicine and education?

I will hold my breath for an answer from ANY of the conservative crackers on this here forum...take a stab.
-- Posted by Mad Max on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 7:08 pm EST

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For starters MM I didn't realize the constituion was the "good book" and who was talking about religious persecution? As for your rank and file democratic saviors who many of them have forsaken wealth and given everything to the poor? Kennedy? Clinton? Obama? Jackson? Not even Carter who I think is a good man. Ya, it's awfully easy to give away someone else's money, and if you think you're mad now wait until after the fall elections.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 6:52 pm EST

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Back Nine.

Apparently all the media world EXCEPT for FoxNews is LiBeRaL MEDIA, so why would I really give two sh*ts about Air America, whatever that is. NPR/VPR is all I need.

As far as Coakley, she sucked as a candidate and deserved to lose. She is, however, a whipping girl for the disgruntled and impatient American public. We dealt with EIGHT YEARS of the Village Idiot, but yet real change takes longer than 1 year. Brown is just Mitt Romney 2.0, and will show his true colors soon enough.

The trouble with you petty, angry GOPers, its all about keeping score, hence the uber-materialism, McMansions, Hummers, etc, etc, etc. Life is a big game of Hungry, Hungry Hippos to you...and to hell with your fellow man.

And the laugh atthe end of all of this is, I couldn't be farther from angryu. I type this stuff with a smaile and a shake of my head at the juvenile omission of any fact based rebuttal to any of the things I post. You responses, almost to a person, from the Right-Wingers never make any logical point or counterpoint...you know, like FoxNews.

Being the loudest and most obnoxious doesn't make you an expert...regardless of what Rush or O'Reilly tell you to think.
-- Posted by Mad Max on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 6:41 pm EST

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Fox News is know around the world as the "National Enquirer" of the United States and it prays upon the uneducated, scummy segment of American society.

Go overseas and ask any British, French, Italian or Spanish person what they think of Fixed News......
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 6:05 pm EST

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What a rough week for the Rutland liberals! I can't tell who is more angry between Mad Max or SOTG...they must need some therapy to deal with Scott Brown, the Supreme Court, almost nominated VP pathological lying Edwards, 1.9 trillion dollar debt ceiling being raised, TSA nominee booted, and now the worst thing of all.....

AIR AMERICA the flagship of liberal talk radio just declared BK and is ceasing operations immediately. Where will the "progressives" and the hard core Martha Coakley democrats go to get their food now?

Fox News continues to lap the track (again) and pound the looney bin MSNBC and all the rest..You don't think people are waking up in this country and smalling the Republican coffee after the last year of these yahoos?
-- Posted by Back Nine on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 5:51 pm EST

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The media industries thrives on headlines and sensationalism is one way to make the proverbial mountain out of a mole hill

....Like FoxNews and the Reid/Negro comment, you mean??

The average American is much more conservative than liberal or socialist

...that isn't what last years election would tell us, nor the Bush/Gore debacle where the Bush brothers cheated and eeeked out a win.

all we ask for is to be allowed to earn a decent living and to spend it as we see fit, not how some better-than-thou politician thinks it should be spent

...how about HOLIER THAN THOU politicians and their pandering to the evangelist gestapo keeping me from living a decent life and sleeping with who I see fit?

That was not the intent or purpose of the federal government, they've gone way past what the constitution mandates them

...REALLY? Pray tell, what does the good book MANDATE for America...where "we" came to escape religious persecution?

The vote in Mass was just one of many that will come this fall simply because politicians have lost touch or completely underestimate the average American

...you mean as Palin/McCant did last year?

And to Mad Max, the politicians are all amoung the rich class, they aren't going to tax themselves or their fellow wealthy when they have the middle class to milk

...so then why have Dems tried to increase the tax on the wealthiest Americans (from 35% to 38%) and repeatedly been thwarted by the GOP?

That's the reason income tax laws are so complicated so the wealthy can take advantage of tax deductions and breaks the rest of us never see. The cap on social security payments are one example

...You see alot of major corporations being run by card carrying Liberals, do you?

-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 11:58 am EST

YOU are doing the dirty work of the people that keep us all down, knucklehead. The GOP consistently votes to reward the wealthy, ignore the downtrodden (that is what church is for), and use this Nations beauty and resources for PROFIT (ANWR, drilling in Nat'l Parks)

and THAT is not the handiwork of ANY liberal politicians, regardless of their pocketbook size.

But you will never see that, as you are blinded by bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia and have proven it countless times with your closeminded, yet illogical posts.


Try responding to THAT with sensible logic and debate. PLEASE>
-- Posted by Mad Max on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 5:15 pm EST

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Son of That Guy....You question is, Is Britton going to win? Who knows is the answer..But I do feel 36 years of Leahy is just about enough. And to set the record straight, 36 years of ANY elected offical is enough, dont you agree?

It is time for Fat Pat to take his arrogant ass and haul it out of Washington.

And I am LOVING the publicity LEN BRITTON is getting.

Thanks SOTG...
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 5:11 pm EST

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I want to point out a disturbing phenomena about the RH. 31 posts about Brown winning in Mass and yet no place in the forums for discussion. I think bias is being demonstrated here. Don't get me wrong. This space does belong to RH. I just thought they would be more open minded.
Further where are any comments by the more left leaning posters?
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 4:41 pm EST

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"Dear mad max.
Sounds like you are not one of those who have 'made it' in society. There is a certain kind of person who is a 'leader' and as such, drives corporate America to the greatness that is The US. if we were all slugs that follow, we would be living in huts not unlike those in Haiti. It takes some people to have the vision to strive to greatness, and it is obvious you are not one of those."

Ummm. Not quite. GED. Military. Put myself through college, worked all over the world, now own and run 4 locations of my own business throughout the Northeast, which I planned and built myself with a small SBA loan and years of hard work.

"Fire for Effect" is it? Yah, ok. Anyway, please see above. Don't need your dollar, thanks. I've "made it" well enough, Spanky. No McMansion and Escalade though...I must be a failure.

I have to laugh at all the disgruntled GOPers calling me "angry" and ranting. We put up with 8 years, EIGHT YEARS, of dick/bush and where did that get us? Now Obama inherits an **** storm and after 1 year, 12 PERCENT of the time Bush had to f()ck up our country, you sore losers want to condemn Obama.

I laugh at you, as you do the rich man's bidding for him. You fight against what is in your own good (affordable health care, free education) because windbags like Limbaugh and Cheney tell you to by appealing to your fear of what you don't understand and distrust of anyone not like you.

and all you do is keep the poor, poor and the rich, richer. There is a reason "free market" is so touted by the GOP, BECAUSE lack of regulation means you can rape the market, ala Pfizer, Monsanto, and Halliburton.

Suckers.
-- Posted by Mad Max on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 4:37 pm EST

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Well business are started and businesses are clossed every day. This is nothing new. Newspapers included.

Any talk of government subsidies of news outlets is just plain wrong. When the government starts paying the bills the government can call the shots, ie how to report the news. When a product or service is no longer needed it goes away. (of course that doesn't include 'weighers of the coal' or 'fence watchers' which are very important posts) That's the way capitalism works. Of course in a socialist society you keep failing businesses alive using tax payers money.

I mean if evolution is real than maybe it's time that we accept the fact that only the strong (profitable) survive and the weak die out.

Any sign that the Herald might be going away soon?
-- Posted by northstar62 on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 4:15 pm EST

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"It is too bad the Herald did not cover Len Britton's Town Hall meeting last night at South Station. Huge crowd, lots of new faces and Britton was articulate and upbeat with his message. Down in Mass the people were chanting "John Kerry is Next, John Kerry is next". I see the same enthuasism building here for the People's candidate Len Britton."

Really? OK, Mr. Chair of the Rutland County Republicans, lemme come right out and ask you: is Britton going to win?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 4:06 pm EST

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Didn't see this story in the Rutland Herald:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/glenn-beck-slams-scott-br_n_429939.html
-- Posted by Wurdy Smithy on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 2:55 pm EST

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It is too bad the Herald did not cover Len Britton's Town Hall meeting last night at South Station. Huge crowd, lots of new faces and Britton was articulate and upbeat with his message. Down in Mass the people were chanting "John Kerry is Next, John Kerry is next". I see the same enthuasism building here for the People's candidate Len Britton.
-- Posted by Bradford Broyles on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 1:45 pm EST

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I know what business Major Taxpayer owns, and I refuse to have anything to do with his business because of his views and comments on this site..
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 12:26 pm EST

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This has NOTHING to do with a paper's integrity. Get real.

It has EVERYTHING to do with the internet and it's new role for our news source.

In 5 years there will be no such thing as newspapers or magazines it will be all on the internet.
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 12:24 pm EST

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The only way SOTG has a jock to turn in is if she's a cross dresser.

The Gayrald is so slanted to the left it's pathetic, apparently someone in authority at the Gayrald thinks it's their personal conduit to the people to push forward their own ideas and agenda. The media industries thrives on headlines and sensationalism is one way to make the proverbial mountain out of a mole hill. The average American is much more conservative than liberal or socialist, all we ask for is to be allowed to earn a decent living and to spend it as we see fit, not how some better-than-thou politician thinks it should be spent. That was not the intent or purpose of the federal government, they've gone way past what the constitution mandates them. The vote in Mass was just one of many that will come this fall simply because politicians have lost touch or completely underestimate the average American. And to Mad Max, the politicians are all amoung the rich class, they aren't going to tax themselves or their fellow wealthy when they have the middle class to milk. That's the reason income tax laws are so complicated so the wealthy can take advantage of tax deductions and breaks the rest of us never see. The cap on social security payments are one example.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 11:58 am EST

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I agree with Palin is Sweet,

A Republican challenger for the Senate is newsworthy, but also Scott Brown's decisive victory in Ma. is historic. This is exactly why people have turned on newspapers. The Brown victory has major ramifications for the Democrats and the country's attitude towards their policies. That is why these stories don't get the attention they deserve. Everyone knows newspapers are just a propaganda tool for the liberals. Journalism used to have a kind of esteem, that when you reported a story, the facts spoke for themselves and people would trust that what their reading is, just that.
-- Posted by p c on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:58 am EST

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I dont think anyone with an IQ above 100 thinks this rag is worth the .75 cents. One can read it for free here, and then move on.

Biased? Only the lefties think not. As an example, just last night, the Republican candidate for US Senate, Len Britton spoke at South Station. Of course no one from the Hearld thought that was important, a major candidate running against a Liberal democratic opponent, Leahy. Not newsworthy, in spite of Scott Brown's victory just a day earlier.

But, if the completely out of touch with Americans, Howard Dean so much as passes gas, it is headlines news here. Go figure.

Good riddance to Mr. Smathers and the rest of these slanted "writers and reporters".
-- Posted by Palin is Sweet on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:24 am EST

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Mad (at the world) Max does indeed appear to have his own issues with "Big Business".

Using Max's narrow-minded, angry thinking, we could just as easily accuse him and his fellow left leaning "thinkers" of exhibiting a fear of capitalism that makes them and other liberals get in bed with atheistic, socialist "zillionaires" (George Soros)...in hopes of securing future government handouts just to avoid having to earn a living for and by himself and file a tax return.

Let's all add an extra dollar to our tax returns this year in hopes of soothing Max's anger!
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:23 am EST

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Who won that election the other day? Might be worth covering.

Just a thought.
-- Posted by Back Nine on Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 8:39 am EST

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Well said, Major Taxpayer- I personally boycott the Herald by refusing to pay money for it. I will read it online for free, in the same way I'll look at the free shoppers that come in the mail, but I will never pay actual money for it.

The back and forth re: coverage of the MA election is interesting: I too didn't see it the first time I looked at the Herald today, and had assumed they were avoiding the story. Did I miss it, or had they, at that point, not yet put it up? But the more telling point is that many of us expect the Herald to be biased, and that is born out of years of familiarity, not a single election story.
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-- Posted by mark on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 11:24 pm EST

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Dear mad max. Sounds like you are not one of those who have 'made it' in society. There is a certain kind of person who is a 'leader' and as such, drives corporate America to the greatness that is The US. if we were all slugs that follow, we would be living in huts not unlike those in Haiti. It takes some people to have the vision to strive to greatness, and it is obvious you are not one of those.
-- Posted by No More on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 8:46 pm EST

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I LOVE the whole "liberal media" babble that never goes away...you mean most newspapers and tv news shows have a "liberal slant" of not pandering to the religious whackos and "me-first, to hell with my brother" conservatives?

I have to laugh at how Big Business gets to a. rape our pocketbooks and environment, b. pay themselves what they don't deserve, c. wriggle out from under their share of tax burden....AND THEN GET THE MASSES OF REACTIONARY IDIOTS TO DO THEIR BIDDING.

Right wingers are so busy grinding axes they don't realize they are keeping themselves down and stagnating society by allowing corporate america to dictate their standard of living. They think it's the "lazy people on the govt dole" that are sapping the wealth from this economy, but it's the MILLION DOLLAR BONUSES AND RETARDED SALARIES that are doing us in....

Fear of socialism makes moderate conservatives get in bed with bible thumpers and zillionaires...just to save a few $s on their tax return.

Pathetic.
-- Posted by Mad Max on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 8:04 pm EST

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The twilight of the newspaper era will slowly yield to publications charging for access to their online content. The NY Times announced today that beginning in 2011 they'll begin charging "frequent readers" for access. The Rutland Herald has a potential gold mine on their hands if they can figure out a way to get Son on That Guy to pay per comment!
-- Posted by Fire for Effect on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 6:54 pm EST

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Newspapers generally are nothing more than an extension if liberal ideology. There are some exceptions but very few. In most areas, there is one major daily newspaper that controls the market, and as such, is, or used to be, the major source of information relayed to the populace. The Herald is a wonderful example of this. All of the news, and I mean all, is slanted to the liberal agenda whenever possible. The editorials and commentary articles likewise, without exception. The three 'major' TV outlets, NBC,ABC, and CBS are also extremely biased toward the liberal agenda, and have been for many years, if not all of their existence. (Walter Cronkite is always portrayed as a fair and unbiased commentator, but he hid it very well, as liberal as they come). Of course Fox is now the runaway leader in news viewership. The newspaper industry is in deep trouble, they have been asking Washington for some or that bailout money - they have been true to the cause you know, but they will fail unless they figure out that the liberal agenda is stearting to be very unappetizing to a majority of Americans. There generally are two sides to every story and most of us are sick and tired of the liberal one only.
-- Posted by No More on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 4:26 pm EST

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"Sorry sotg. your wrong..It wasn't in rotation OR in "that giant picture box" this morning.(5am) when i read it. You had to dig for it under other headlines. Maybe they realized how biased that looked and changed it."

Good stuff. Hey, did you know that the Rutland Herald officially proclaimed today "Son of That Guy Day" in Rutland? It was right here on the website's homepage at 5:00 this morning -- I swear! Oh, they must've taken it down. But it was here, I promise! And certainly it was still here by, say, 9:57 am!

"And neither of the other stories I mentioned are on the front page of the printed Version. (I usually read that version first). Maybe your one of those cheap basterds that won't buy the printed version, and don't know that..if that's the case your forgiven your idiot comments."

So you've just torpedoed your own comment from 9:57 am this morning, whining about the Herald "choosing to [sic] First page stories about a winter festival and a 12 million $ dining hall.". Even better stuff. You're running off the rails, here, and it's fun as hell to watch.

Anything left to say, Vermont-itis?

"p.s. The day I backpedal to a worm like you, I'll turn in my jock."

Fantastic! Three-for-three for inane comments! Good show, V. Good show.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 4:15 pm EST

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Sorry sotg. your wrong..It wasn't in rotation OR in "that giant picture box" this morning.(5am) when i read it. You had to dig for it under other headlines. Maybe they realized how biased that looked and changed it.

And neither of the other stories I mentioned are on the front page of the printed Version. (I usually read that version first). Maybe your one of those cheap basterds that won't buy the printed version, and don't know that..if that's the case your forgiven your idiot comments.

p.s. The day I backpedal to a worm like you, I'll turn in my jock.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 3:44 pm EST

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"Sotg... were speaking about the online version, Einstein , you know where people can comment on the stories??/"

Nice try, Vermont-itis. But what you actually WROTE was

"...and the Herald chooses to hide it, choosing to First page stories about a winter festival and a 12 million $ dining hall. That's either incompetence or stupidity..take your choice."

... and, of course, the story was also online in rotation in that there big giant picture-box at the top-left of the homepage... you know, the only thing showing text AND images on rutlandherald.com

Try again. Try to come up with a better backpedal this time... "Einstein".
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 3:14 pm EST

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Sotg... were speaking about the online version, Einstein , you know where people can comment on the stories??/
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 3:03 pm EST

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Print is dead, wake and smell the 1's and 0's. I have watched my parents get the RH and it has gotten smaller in size every time I look at them reading it. It looks like a comic book now and from what I read online, it looks like it is written by the same kind of caliber of writers. I will skim the headlines and move on to other sources of news. I haven't found any one source of news that is worth sticking to, just picking up pieces from all locations seems to work. Also listening to you people squabble at eachother everyday, gives me a morning chuckle.
-- Posted by annoymous none on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 3:01 pm EST

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"As a business owner I have ceased all advertising and paid subscription to the RH."

And yet you're here, all the time.

So what exactly does that make you? A hypocrite, or just plain cheap?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 1:10 pm EST

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"Take today , for instance...a game changing election held in a neighboring State, with National implications,(GOP wins Mass. upset) and the Herald chooses to hide it, choosing to First page stories about a winter festival and a 12 million $ dining hall. That's either incompetence or stupidity..take your choice."

One last time, for the terminally stupid and/or utterly clueless:

THE MASSACHUSETTS ELECTION STORY IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF TODAY'S PAPER.

Get it, now? Sheesh...
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 1:08 pm EST

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Michael, your assumptions about people and pigeonholing them from a post on a forum doesn't make me a fan of Limbaugh ( never watch him), but it does make you a moron.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 12:52 pm EST

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I concur with the previous post regarding bias and journalistic integrity. The Rutland Herald and its likes have become a mouth piece for liberal view points. Be it gay marriage, Vermont Yankee, or the horrible promotion during the Dean campaign.

What puzzles me most is the Paper's ownership allowing an editor to effectively alienate their customer base. It's paid advertising that funds a paper. Such advertisers being business owners typically exhibit conservative leanings, be it family values, fiscal reasonability, and affordable energy.

As a business owner I have ceased all advertising and paid subscription to the RH. Also boycott any advertisers, routinely doing business with the RH. Why should I fund an entity that consciously seeks to destroy my livelihood?
-- Posted by Major Taxpayer on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 11:35 am EST

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Don't worry Vermontis, when you listen to your god, Rush Limbaugh, for 4 hours today, I'm sure he'll mention it.
-- Posted by Michael in Vermont on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 11:16 am EST

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Is anyone surprised by this?? Vermont newspapers are biased, they have zero journalistic integrity, and their "reporters" are either dog-dumb or incompetent.

Take today , for instance...a game changing election held in a neighboring State, with National implications,(GOP wins Mass. upset) and the Herald chooses to hide it, choosing to First page stories about a winter festival and a 12 million $ dining hall. That's either incompetence or stupidity..take your choice.
-- Posted by None None on Wed, Jan 20, 2010, 9:57 am EST

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