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Published: January 26, 2010

John McCardell has taken his campaign to lower the legal drinking age to the Vermont Legislature, which will consider the idea, probably in the abstract, while declining to take McCardell's advice.

For one thing, the state would have to surrender about $17.5 million in federal transportation money if it lowered the drinking age to 18. Federal law penalizes states that don't keep the drinking age at 21.

Then there are those who testify that lowering the drinking age would create greater danger for younger teens, causing more death and mayhem. No legislator would want to face the mother of a 15-year-old killed because of more readily available alcohol.

But McCardell is doing us a service by drawing attention to the pathology of drinking that exists around the nation. His view was shaped by his years as president of Middlebury College, where he saw the toll taken by the binge drinking and other immature behavior caused by the 21-year-old legal age and the need for students to socialize in secret. Even if discussion of a lower age is mostly abstract, it is useful for how it forces us to recognize the ways we encourage our young people to behave in a self-destructive fashion.

Culturally, we celebrate drinking. Beer commercials are a subspecies of comedy usually involving a dimwitted male whose thought processes have been severely compromised by his desire to get his hand around a cold one. Presumably, the beer companies want us to think all of these overgrown teenagers are actually 21 or older. Whatever. The promotion of beer as an all-purpose elixir perpetuates the culture of mindless partying. If there is a contradiction between the stupid behavior that is promoted and the promise that beer will gain you the affections of the beauteous babe, that contradiction is not explored in most beer commercials.

Then we make it all illegal. The result is to sequester those below 21 into dorm rooms or forest clearings where the excitement of the forbidden gives an extra thrill to the excesses that occur. It is as if we want kids to go off by themselves beyond the reach of common sense.

How do you moderate this behavior so that kids don't do real harm to themselves? McCardell's idea is that we allow those 18 and older to learn responsible behavior by treating them as adults. Drinking can become an ordinary part of life, as it is for grown-ups. A glass of wine at dinner or a cold beer on a hot day are something to enjoy, and the sooner kids get the idea that getting wasted is mainly a waste of time, then the better off we will all be.

There are some difficulties, however. Excess is wired into the brains of older teens. It is a time of extreme emotion and the testing of limits, of courting danger, of adventure, lust and experimentation. Asking an 18-year-old in for a glass of sherry with the faculty may not do the trick.

Also, the culture will not soon be cured of its immature tendencies. McCardell's appeal to reason is useful in part for the way it calls attention to the broader cultural problem. But it won't quickly solve it.

And then there are those mothers, who have suffered the ultimate loss. If a 15- or 16-year-old will have an easier time getting his or her hands on a six-pack after 18-year-olds can legally buy, then that is a reason to question the quick lowering of the drinking age.

Colleges are particularly vulnerable to the follies of the drinking culture, especially when it comes to tailgating, fraternity parties, and the quest for social acceptance within a hothouse social environment. It is understandable that McCardell, having witnessed the costs, would want to open up this topic for discussion.

It's time for kids and their parents, in college and out, to wean themselves from behavior that leads nowhere but to grief. McCardell is moving that process along.








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Holy crap! Not only do you want to take away some people's rights, you also want to return to the days when only white landowners could vote. Well shuck my corn! We done got ourselves a ***********, plantation-owning bigot.

You want go back further than even the TBV crowd. Wow!
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sat, Feb 6, 2010, 9:28 pm EST

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But Notta, its for the Public Safety! Look who they elected last time.(LOL)

Some rights need to be earned. Too many voters, not enough taxpayers. It's easy to be generous with someone else's money that you didn't contribute to.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Thu, Feb 4, 2010, 7:37 am EST

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Wow, Fh06! I didn't see this one coming but here it is in your own words: "In fact, I say take away the right to vote for college kids."

There are quite a few people out there who want to remove people's rights. Looks like you're one of them I'm willing to bet you're one of those people who want to limit other peoples' rights too. No sense sharing rights with a bunch of people you don't agree with, right?

Never mind. Next thing you'll be trying to take away MY rights.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, 8:01 pm EST

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Notta, clear your head for a minute and quit jumping to conclusions.

First, the setting of the legal drinking age is really unrelated to DUI. You keep confusing the two. They really are totally separate issues.

Second, my opinion of what is sufficient regard of public safety belies your unjustified leap that I ignore ALL public safety. We could improve public safety by outlawing private ownership and operation of motor vehicles. But we don't, because there is an implicit, if not explicit recognition that public safety is a trade-off with other policy goals. It is not the only goal, and not even always the highest goal.

The lowering of legal drinking age may cause a minimal decrease in public safety, but makes a correspondingly large increase in equitable treatment of citizens who shoulder a rather important burden for our country - the 18 year olds who serve in the military. I'd be happy to keep the legal drinking age higher for those kids who are only runnning off to college. They haven't earned anything, and are in fact, just taking advantage of opportunities that our society affords them. In essence, they are less deserving of the extra freedom. In fact, I say take away the right to vote for college kids.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Wed, Feb 3, 2010, 3:36 pm EST

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OK, FH06, you go ahead and ignore public opinion about public safety. Whe you cause an accident because you refused to knuckle under to the opinion that people shouldn't drive drunk or shouldn't drive over the speed limit or on the right side of the roadway or whatever, please let us know the date of your trial. many of us will want to be there to applaud when you get the book thrown at you. But, then again, the book is just a lot of silly opinions, right? They don't apply to you.

Here's a few tips: slow down, don't drink & drive, stay on the right side of the road, etc. Consider them suggestions if you have to but try to be a good boy, will ya?
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, 6:57 pm EST

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Fortunately I have the luxury of ignoring public opinion when I think it misguided and ill-informed, Notta. One of the perks of staying out of politics.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Tue, Feb 2, 2010, 11:53 am EST

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FH-06, please run for office on a straight "Public safety is over-rated" platform. Maybe that will smarten you up.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 7:49 pm EST

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Yep, Notta. Public safety is overrated.

Everything is a trade-off. Complete public safety, whatever that means, is an impossibility. Too many people think it an end-all and be-all, and then try to justify everything under the sun as for the "public safety".

I categorically reject the idea that society is responsible for, or has an unrestricted right to interfere in anyone's behavior "for their own good" or for the good of the public. I doubt that is such a remarkable concept to most of us who reject living in the Nanny-state.

I support the indiivdual freedoms as much as rationally possible. And of course, where that line of rationality falls is open to lots of personal interpretation and opinion. We just disagree on where that is with regard to underage drinking. I have no problem with convicting people of DUI, but frankly that is not the same thing as underage drinking. People who equate the two aren't showing enough situational awareness IMO.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 10:32 am EST

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No, Freehold the drinking age should be linked to the age you actually serve in the military. Don't offer that privilege to the whole because the of the few who actually serve.

Actually if we could figure out a way so that the drunk dirver is the only one killed I wouldn't have any problem with anyone drinking. My concern is only with the innocent individuals who are killed and hurt by the drunks.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 5:38 pm EST

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evN, two things: a.) gay married people pose no danger to me nor anyone else and b.) teenagers are NOT adults, they're kids.

FH06 says, "Public safety is over-rated"

Wow! That's an interesting perspective.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 4:44 pm EST

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Oh Notta, yes I understand that, of course. I'm just not such a paranoid fearful person I guess. I avoid driving during the hours the drunks are out and about, minimizing the risks.

Teenagers, as a group, don't understand their own mortality. Legal drinking age restrictions won't change that. Teenagers will continue to die at disproportionate rates due to bad judgment, regardless. I don't see continuing the injustice of telling some kid he's old enough to get blown up by an IED but not old enough to have a beer as a good enough tradeoff.

Public safety is over-rated. We trade off too much freedom in exchange for some modicum of safety. The sooner our kids realize the world is not a safe place, and that they have to learn the discipline and self-control to survive it, the better off we'll all be.

Are you arguing for the teenagers sake, or your own? Guess you answered that.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 9:47 am EST

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Take the drivers license away from old fa*ts like Notta to make the roads safer. Too many of those old folks driving 25 mph getting in the way. It's amazing Notta was all for gay rights but darn if he'll let an 18 y.o. adult have a beer.
-- Posted by ex-vermonter None on Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 7:30 pm EST

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Do you include yourself among those "stupid people, FH-06? Public safety requires that we contain the "stupid people," as you call them, to protect the rest of us. This isn't so much about saving the lawbreakers as it is saving us FROM the lawbreakers. Get it now?
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 9:53 am EST

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The drinking age should be linked to the age at which you can serve in the Armed Forces, or vote.

If Congress would quit trying to strong-arm states into enforcing certain policies, we wouldn't be giving up any funds. This concern just highlights the stupidity of the Federal government trying to shove policy down the throats of the states...bypassing Commerce Clause restrictions.

Stupidity does kill. And you can't pass laws to outlaw stupidity. So if we keep saving all the stupid people from themselves, aren't we allowing stupidity to build up in the gene pool? Let natural selection run its course.
-- Posted by Freehold-06 on Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 7:59 am EST

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Lower the drinking age to 10.
-- Posted by Mr. Moderate on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 10:26 am EST

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Raise the drinking age to 25.
-- Posted by Notta Bushman on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 9:22 am EST

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