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By STEPHANIE M. PETERS STAFF WRITER - Published: February 9, 2010

Vermont's "fiscal realities" may be grim now, but if the state doesn't take reformative action this year on issues such as unemployment insurance, unfunded retirement benefit liabilities and property taxes, the pain will grow next year, a panel of state officials told an audience at College of St. Joseph on Monday.

Commissioner of Labor Patricia Moulton Powden, state Treasurer Jeb Spaulding and Commissioner of Taxes Richard Westman gave the collective presentation, titled "Vermont's Fiscal Realities," before a group of about 60 people.

Each official oversees a division of state government for which Gov. James Douglas has proposed substantial policy changes this budget season to help reel in some of the state's more costly programs. Some of those proposals call for raising taxes on certain groups, particularly the plan to try to right the state's bankrupt unemployment insurance fund; it is expected the state will need to borrow $93 million this year alone to pay its unemployment obligations.

Part of the proposed solution in that fund calls for incrementally raising taxes on employers through 2013 and cutting unemployment benefits, according to Powden – not unlike the proposals shared by Spaulding, who spoke about scaling back retirement benefits to state employees and teachers, and Westman, who explained that the administration is hoping to reduce the number of residents receiving income sensitivity to try to control property tax increases necessary to cover education funding.

"We still want to be a generous state, but we need to have our generosity more in line with what we can afford," Powden said.

While unemployment insurance presents a $300 million to $700 million problem for the state, according to Powden, Westman said the state is on the "verge of trouble" with its property tax. By exempting so many various groups and entities from the property tax, the state has "created huge holes in our property tax base … putting the tax on a smaller and smaller base," said Westman, who was appointed to the position by Douglas in August.

Spaulding said the state has an estimated $2.5 billion estimated unfunded liability in the combined costs of its retirement health care and pension benefits for teachers and state employees. Already the state has sat down with the teachers' union, Vermont-NEA, and negotiated some changes, including increasing the retirement age to 65, Spaulding said. He said he hopes to apply the same model of negotiation to the state employees, although perhaps not the same concessions.

Before talking about the retirement benefits, however, Spaulding said the state's financial situation isn't "all bad news." Vermont recently had its AAA bond rating renewed, and is one of only 11 states in the country to hold that rating, he said. The state also hasn't engaged in any short-term or cash borrowing in at least five years, and has managed to balance its budget one way or another every year – occurrences that aren't happening around the country.

Spaulding also took issue with a Fox News video clip that the presentation's sponsors played at the beginning of the forum. In it, the Fox News commentator displays a map of the country with a progressive display of the states with the smallest budget gaps to the largest budget gaps in the country. Vermont is placed in the worst category, for states facing a 25 to 49 percent budget gap.

Spaulding said that "from everything he knows," that statistic is not true. He also questioned the source of the information, which Jim Eckhardt, chairman of the Rutland County Pro-Business Coalition, later said was the federal Congressional Budget Office.

The video clip did not state what budget figures it was using. However, Douglas has proposed a $1.1 billion general fund budget and faces a $150 million – or 13 percent – budget gap.

stephanie.peters@rutlandherald.com








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Of course, Ann, you COULD do what most of the rest of us do... pay your damn taxes on time. Capiche

Don't you worry SOG. My taxes are all paid but oops!! I was late!!! OMG!!
Trust me I contribute my fair share to the State. I'm sure you know everything
there is to know about running a business.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Wed, Feb 10, 2010, 7:26 am EST

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SOTG,
Thank you for the correction on my numbers. My apologies to anyone mis-lead for the wandering decimal. I should have used a pencil instead of an old calculator.

My corrected post....

Mr. Spaulding states, "The state also hasn't engaged in any short-term or cash borrowing in at least five years, and has managed to balance its budget one way or another every year-...." The way the budget gets balanced one way is on the backs of the taxpayer or another way is on the backs of the taxpayer, be they individual or business. I got the feeling all night Mr. Spaulding was trying to put "Lipstick On The Pig". "The Pig" being state government feeding at a trough full of "OUR" money!

The future will repeat itself if state spending is not brought under control, according to Vermont State Commissioner of Taxes Richard Westman, as we are looking at an increase of .20 on our tax bills. That equals a $300 increase on a $150,000 house.

I don't know about you but I can hardly afford an increase of $500 on my tax bill! I have worked too long and too hard for what I have to turn around and hand the state my property because they can't get their spending under control. It doesn't matter if the projected deficit is 50% or 13% the budget needs to be cut accordingly to be balanced and sweetheart deals for unions and bloated social programs need to come to an end.
-- Posted by tburd on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 7:14 pm EST

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Of course, Ann, you COULD do what most of the rest of us do... pay your damn taxes on time. Capiche?

Stop whining and take some responsibility for yourself. Or, at the very least, stop complaining about others who ALSO don't take responsibility for themselves.

Oh, and tburd: a potential 20 cent per $100 increase in taxes -- your "0.20" figure -- would be a $300 increase in property taxes, not $3,000. (Or $500 for your particular house -- not $5,000.)

In any case, you're completely off base. Westman's been talking about a 2% increase overall -- from 86 cents per $100 to 88.2 cents per $100 -- so unless you're currently spending a quarter of a million dollars a year on TAXES, you're not seeing a "$5,000" increase. And Westman himself says the increase is related to a decrease in grand list values coupled with school spending -- NOT "sweetheart deals" and "bloated social programs".

Other than all of that, though, great post.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 6:21 pm EST

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Mr. Spaulding states, "The state also hasn't engaged in any short-term or cash borrowing in at least five years, and has managed to balance its budget one way or another every year-...." The way the budget gets balanced one way is on the backs of the taxpayer or another way is on the backs of the taxpayer, be they individual or business. I got the feeling all night Mr. Spaulding was trying to put "Lipstick On The Pig". "The Pig" being state government feeding at a trough full of "OUR" money!

The future will repeat itself if state spending is not brought under control, according to Vermont State Commissioner of Taxes Richard Westman, as we are looking at an increase of .20 on our tax bills. That equals a $3000 increase on a $150,000 house.

I don't know about you but I can hardly afford an increase of $5000 on my tax bill! I have worked too long and too hard for what I have to turn around and hand the state my property because they can't get their spending under control. It doesn't matter if the projected deficit is 50% or 13% the budget needs to be cut accordingly to be balanced and sweetheart deals for unions and bloated social programs need to come to an end.
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-- Posted by tburd on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 11:16 am EST

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I am a small business owner and this is an example of how unfriendly the State of Vermont is to businesses.
Last fall I suddenly realized my sales tax was due that day. It was a Friday and I wasn't able to close shop and get the check in the mail. Since I know how VT just loves to penalize you to death, I called the tax dept to let them know my tax would be late and I would be putting a check in the mail on Monday,. They said "we don't care, you will receive a penalty" I have been penalized $500 for a $740 tax that was 4 days late. I have not paid their penalty. Two weeks ago they put a lien on my home. They call and harrass us constantly. They have even been calling before the tax is due to remind me I better pay it on time or there will be more penalties. As far as I'm concerned, they can wait til the cows come home before I pay them their penalty. They are desperate for money and have to put the squeeze on what businesses are remaining.
-- Posted by Ann Marie None on Tue, Feb 9, 2010, 9:45 am EST

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