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Ashley Ellis of Rutland died Aug. 16 while an inmate at the Swanton prison.

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By Gordon Dritschilo and Brent Curtis
Staff Writers - Published: March 7, 2010

A medical corporation stonewalled the police detective investigating the death of an inmate last year at the Swanton prison.

A state police report on the investigation into the death of Ashley Ellis includes revelations that lawyers for the private company that provided medical care in Vermont prisons instructed its employees not to talk to police, that Ellis might have gotten medication she needed were it not for a missed phone call, and that Ellis was smuggling contraband into the prison at the time of her death.

Ellis died Aug. 16, two days into a 30-day sentence for a traffic offense that seriously injured a man. A medical examiner's report found that she died in part because prison medical officials did not supply her with potassium pills used to treat complications from anorexia.

The 10-page report, released after a public records request, lists Vermont State Police Detective Edward Meslin's findings before lawyers for Prison Health Service, which had a contract to provide health care in Vermont prisons, put an end to its employees' cooperation.

The Vermont Department of Corrections did not renew the contract when it expired in January.

A spokesman for Tennessee-based Prison Health Services declined to comment Friday.

In the past, the company has denied responsibility for the death of Ellis, who was from Rutland.

"Based on the information available at this time, PHS is confident that during the less than 48 hours that Ashley Ellis was in state custody, she

received care that met applicable standards. … We can state emphatically that PHS did not deny her access to medications," the company said in a Sept. 30 statement.

But while the company and its employees have faced neither criminal charges nor civil litigation as a result of Ellis' death, there is plenty of blame directed at it and its employees.

"PHS broke down, that's where the breakdown was," said Vermont Defender General Matthew Valerio. His office oversees the Prisoner Rights Office, which handles legal affairs on behalf of Vermont inmates. "The bottom line is, they had an obligation to get her medications. How they did so is almost an irrelevance."

"I'd have to say in my view, there is sufficient evidence to bring a criminal charge against the company itself," Valerio added. "I almost guarantee if this were an elderly person who checked into a nursing home and someone failed to provide for them, it would be looked at in a whole different way."

Franklin County State's Attorney Jim Hughes said in October he would not pursue charges in Ellis' death because he could find no one person whose negligence rose to a criminal level.

A.J. Ruben, an attorney for Disability Rights Vermont (formerly Vermont Protection and Advocacy), said his organization, which safeguards the rights of individuals with physical or mental disabilities, hadn't found evidence of a crime in the case, but believed that civil liability on the part of the company or PHS employees involved may exist.

"There's no individual or corporation here who should be held responsible," Ruben said. "There were individuals who made poor choices when taken all together."




'Poor choices'

The state police report, completed Oct. 9, describes several "poor choices" and failures in the system that should have provided for Ellis' health.

Ellis, 23, was convicted last year of misdemeanor negligence in a 2007 crash that left a motorcyclist partly paralyzed and in a wheelchair. Her sentence also included community service and indefinite loss of her driver's license.

Ellis had been diagnosed with depression and an eating disorder since the crash and was on medications, including potassium chloride.

On Aug. 12, a Wednesday, two days before Ellis was to report to Northwest State Correctional Facility, her doctor faxed her medical records to Dr. Delores Burroughs-Burron in the Department of Corrections' health services office, who in turn faxed them to a nurse working at the prison.

The nurse, Renee Trombley, reviewed the records the next day and e-mailed a Dr. Cody in California, identified in the report as Prison Health Services' regional director. Cody authorized Trombley to order Ellis' medications, the report said, but they were not ordered then because it was the end of the day.

Arriving between 7 and 7:30 a.m. the next morning, Trombley found one of the two other nurses scheduled that day had not come in. Trombley wound up skipping her own duties to cover the missing nurse's.

Trombley told police she tried to have a meeting in Waterbury postponed but was instructed by a superior to go, and left the jail in mid-afternoon. She never ordered Ellis' medication.

Ellis reported to prison that same day — Aug. 14, a Friday — at 1 p.m. As she sat in booking, Ellis wrote a two-page letter, later found under her bed. Detective Meslin said she described going from a healthy, 120-pound 21-year-old to a depressed, 86-pound 23-year-old.

The letter said she had been sitting in booking for six hours, that she had spoken to "a lady from mental health" three hours ago and that she needed her medication. She described being served a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, chips and a peach before writing "well that didn't take long for all that to come up."

At 9 p.m. Ellis was screened by another nurse, Wayne Hogaboom. She listed low potassium as a chronic medical problem. At about 11 p.m., she was taken to her cell.



Missed opportunity

On Saturday, Aug. 15, nurse Connie Hall arrived at 6 a.m. for a 12-hour shift. Ellis' chart was one of five or six waiting on her desk. Hall verified Ellis' medications, then called a PHS doctor to issue her new prescriptions, including one for potassium chloride.

The prison did not have the potassium in stock, so Hall called in the prescription to the Rite Aid pharmacy in St. Albans and left a message for a nurse on the night shift, asking her to pick it up.

The night nurse, Karen Hough, didn't listen to the message until the following day. She told police she didn't usually check her messages until then. Hall said that while nurses would often pick up prescriptions on their way to work, it was "strictly a courtesy thing."

Hough arrived at work at 5:40 p.m. without the medication. Hall told police the Rite Aid closed at 6 p.m., so there was not time to get the medication, and that "someone probably would have gotten the medication on Sunday."

Hough later told police she left the company because of the incident. She could not be reached for comment for this story.

Corrections officer Mike Wall brought Ellis breakfast in her cell a few minutes after 6 a.m. that Sunday. Wall said they exchanged pleasantries. Another inmate said Ellis appeared groggy.

Wall returned about half an hour later and found Ellis face-down on her bunk, unresponsive. Medical personnel cleared food from her mouth and performed the Heimlich maneuver before taking her to the Northwestern Medical Center in St. Albans.

She was pronounced dead at 7:33 a.m.

Detective Meslin arrived at 8:45 a.m. He interviewed prison officials and found the letter under Ellis' bunk, along with a casework request form under her bed. Filled out in pencil, the form said, "On Tuesday I'd like to meet my case worker to discuss my meds and get everything straightened out."

She also had a sick call request, dated Aug. 15, that did not appear to have been handed in to prison officials.

An autopsy found the cause of death to be complications from low potassium, blaming anorexia and lack of access to medication. It also found a package in Ellis' vagina containing 17 hand-rolled cigarettes and five and a half pills of Suboxone, a painkiller prescribed to her before entering prison.



Gag order

Meslin wrote that an interview with Trombley in October was interrupted by a knock on the door, after which she left the room for a moment. When she returned, according to the report, she said an attorney for Prison Health Services had instructed her not to speak with him.

Five days later, on Oct. 6, an attorney for the company contacted Meslin, saying he represented not just PHS but all its employees, who asked him not to speak with any of the company's employees regarding the incident.

Both Valerio and Ruben said that denying investigators access to employees was normal practice for a business trying to limit its legal liability.

But both lawyers said they saw lots of room for improvement in the system.

Ruben said his group is completing an investigation of Ellis' death that will include not only the nonprofit group's conclusions about what went wrong but also pages of suggestions that will be turned over to the Department of Corrections.

At least some action has already been undertaken by the state, which replaced Prison Health Services with another private contractor, Correct Care Solutions. It has been providing health and mental health services at Vermont's prisons since the start of February.

Corrections Commissioner Andrew Pallito said Friday that he made it clear early on to the new company's president that he had high expectations.

"I met him face to face because I wanted to tell him what I expected and what wouldn't be tolerated," Pallito said, adding that problems like those experienced in Ellis' case were part of the conversation.

For his part, Pallito characterized the breakdowns that led to Ellis' death as a case of human failure.

"In the end, what we have is a good system but not enough follow through," he said. "I would say it wasn't even so much a breakdown in communication as it was a failure to follow through."

An attorney with a Rutland law firm representing Ellis' family in the investigation of a possible lawsuit declined to comment on the case Friday.



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READER COMMENTS


None None,

That contraband was unrelated to her death......

(Cigarettes and 1 prescribed medication. Something she legally had FULL access to on the outside. Everyday.)

You need to understand the "Contraband" terminology. Contraband is ANYTHING not allowed on property. Cell phones, camera's, cigs, alcohol, etc... Anything not allowed on property, or inside the facility, can be considered contraband.

Sadly, If she did not run out of potassium pills before entering prison. She may still be alive today!

Makes you wonder, eh?

If she snuck those pills in with her. She'd be alive. Sure she'd be risking getting into trouble, of course. But alive and serving a 30 day sentence is much better than having a death sentence.
-- Posted by CF Reality on Tue, Mar 9, 2010, 12:40 am EST

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"Packing" is the practice of hiding things in body cavities. Men use their rectums, while women have a second option. Jail staff, even during a strip search, cannot search these cavities without going through several complicated hoops. Consequently, contraband is rarely detected when "packed". Because the jail chose not to pursue the process to conduct a cavity search hardly contradicts the "no outside med" standard. The two are not related.
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 10:45 pm EST

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Okay, None None, I found more info.

Apparently people held on felonies are strip searched prior to arraignment. This source is unclear on the searching of people lodged for misdemeanors AFTER conviction. Incapacitated persons and persons held for misdemeanors prior to arraignment are given "pat searches" and screenings by a metal detector unless reasonable cause exists, then the strip search is done.

http://www.doc.state.vt.us/about/policies/rpd/315.01%20Intake%20And%20Bail.pdf
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 9:07 pm EST

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Without cavity searches, the whole stance on, "We cannot allow medications from the outside into the jails due to diversion" is a farce. I am not taking a pro cavity-search stance. Quite frankly, I had no idea until your post that Vermont does not look.

I am puzzled why "strip search" is in Corrections' glossary, unless it can be ordered for certain high risk people (like known drug dealers).

"Strip Search/Visual Body Cavity Search: A visual inspection of all body surfaces and body cavities. (409.01)"

http://www.doc.state.vt.us/about/policies/glossary_s
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 8:47 pm EST

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Blame the jail for the contraband? She had it stuck up inside of her. Are you in favor of cavity searches? I'm sure that would go over well. She had the stuff up inside of her because she knew that jail staff cannot check there.
Drug abusers die every day from their habits. That she chose not to smuggle in potassium may indicate where her priorities were. Does that excuse the medical staff at the jail? No, but does that place all the blame on them? I would submit that Ms. Ellis was not long for the earth even if she avoided jail time due to the lifestyle choices she was making.
-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 7:55 pm EST

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I fault jail procedures for the contraband making it in. I bet she is not the only inmate who either had a nicotine habit or brought some in to barter. Anyone see the irony of PHS' use of strict procedures regarding medications as an excuse why all new medications must be provided to inmates, and the inmate they killed by not providing medication through the proper channels had successfully smuggled in contraband substances?

As to the Suboxone, vtdigger.com reported that she had an opiate habit and this medication is used for people with that problem. Too bad she did not smuggle in some potassium pills or she would have been alive to tell about it. vtdigger.com states she asked for potassium so many times for the short time she was alive in the jail that prison staff had dubbed her Potassium Girl.

I am not sure if this was behind some of the other Vermont jail deaths in the last few years, but a New York Times article from five years ago found being addicted to heroin (an opiate) and going to jail cold-turkey run by for-profit care companies has led to deaths. So if the low potassium had not killed her, Ellis may have succumb from acute opiate withdrawal as well.

The Department of Corrections is being silent on Ellis' death as they may have culpability in a civil wrongful death suit as well as probably having to rehire PHS in some fashion in the future. Florida was sued so frequently by families of dead or injured inmates while employing PHS to see to their prisoners' medical needs that the tax rate went up paying off lawsuits. These costs need to be factored in when savings for used a for-profit company are used.

A suggested solution by the same article is to splinter of the medication provision aspect of a for-profit care company. That way, PHS and its ilk will not have a financial incentive to not provide medications.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/27/nyregion/27jail.html
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 4:44 pm EST

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Look, Ashley did NOT do this to herself. She didn't want to die! She made a wrong choice and was paying the price. Unfortunately, she did not go to jail to "do her time" and expect to die at the hands of the incompetent morons that dropped the ball. Someone did NOT do their job,the first idiot that should have called in the script dropped the ball big time! What kind of idiot knows someone needs meds to survive and just doesn't have the time to call it in. Or leaves a voice mail and doesn't follow up on that to be damn sure it was received in time? What?!?!?!? How is this Ashley's fault? Because she was an inmate, they just ignored her. And as for the "smuggled contriban" it sounds like they didn't find it until the autopsy. The end result, she wouldn't have died if she had what her doctor presribed for her. Anorexia is nothing to laugh at. She suffered I have no doubt and has no one to answere to but God now. So let this poor girl rest in peace.
-- Posted by SB None on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 4:22 pm EST

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Dear Name Change: Are you suggesting that Ashley Ellis DIDN'T do this to herself, as your post to Tom Fedele suggests? Do you mean that SHE wasn't driving the car that collided with the victim? Do you mean that the victim isn't paralyzed? I'm not sure how you can presume that she didn't do it to herself unless someone else drove her car and the victim isn't paralyzed. Are you also suggesting that someone else smuggled contraband in her ******? It's a tragedy all around, no doubt, but let's not relieve anyone of blame that they deserve to bear.
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-- Posted by None None on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 2:19 pm EST

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Ms. Ellis was in a fragile mental and physical state at the time of her incarceration. It was irresponsible for the judge to hand down the sentence that he did. We cannot continue to use our prisons for the purpose of incarcerating those with mental health and addiction issues.
-- Posted by Larry Williams on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 11:21 am EST

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Does a nurse have to pick up prescription medication for prison inmates? If so, how about the OTC product, Pedialyte, available at pharmacies and many grocery stores? Yes, as an institutionalized person, she would have had to had an order on her chart, but if the prescription potassium was so impossible to obtain, I do not understand, given the circumstances, why a guard or secretary could not have been sent out to get several bottles of Pedialyte. Each liter consumed contains 20 mEq of the critical potassium she needed, and would be a doable quantity to drink over the course of a day. (20 mEq daily for hypokalemia and 40-100 mEq daily for treatment of potassium depeletion. Source: Medscape)

-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 10:28 pm EST

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I was thinking about this, too, but with anorexia she probably wouldn't have drank it - even knowing her life depended upon it. Not that this excuses them from trying...this is screwy to say the least
-- Posted by Sandra T Farris-Upton on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 8:39 am EST

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What could be more important than ordering required medications? Who else did not get their meds that day and if it is "strictly a courtesy thing" to pick-up meds when it is actually scheduled to be done? It appears this is a broken system and it needs to be fixed because believe it or not innocent people do go to jail and next time is just a question of when not if. I don't know this girl or the facts of this case but I do know others that have been denied crucial heart medications.
-- Posted by vermont transplant None on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 6:55 am EST

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Far worst people than Ms Ellis were allowed to walk.

She was in the State's Care and it was the state responsibility to be certain that she was released in BETTER condition than she was incarcerated under. (Reform). If they did not feel they could improve her, then they should not have
incarcerated her.



Tom Fedele

You post is the most arrogant and crude post, I have read to date. "She did this to herself." What if it was YOUR sister , or wife or daughter? I'll bet you would be doing a different dance.

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-- Posted by Name Change on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 6:30 am EST

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Judge Thomas Zonay was either ignorant or indifferent to send such a medically fragile person to jail for a car accident causing serious injury, especially on a Friday, when there would be only one RN for one shift on weekends there. Renee Trombley was fired for taking off on Friday before ordering the prescribed potassium. No problem for PHS, which has inordinately high staff turnover. There are new or desperate job-seekers looking for work who just completed LPN training ready to fill such positions, but usually not for long. I thought at first upon reading this article that the nurses took a "mental health day" to enjoy the weekend. After reading three articles on vtdigger.com, it is more likely these people were unreliable to begin with or just quit.

vtdigger.com also added that Correct Care Solutions is headed by the same CEO as PHS, and their contract called for providing MORE for $2 million less, to be both the mental health and medical provider. There was even some discussion that these for-profits may have to be mandated by new state law to provide medication. Wow.... Additionally, is using a for-profit cheaper when sicker inmates are released, including those with transmissible diseases like hepatitis C. Who picks up a lot of their costs when released and those they transmit to? This leads to another argument that when all is said and done, has outsourcing this health function saved money?. Not everyone in jail is a lifer.

I was also stunned that Martha Israel, RN, went to the papers and the Board of Nursing about PHS pushing/mandating LPNs to provide services beyond the scope of licenses, including patient assessments. Her complaints did not stop the state from renewing with PHS.

It sounds like more of the same or worse, though there is some unreleased contract changes regarding care provision. PHS racked up violations routinely, including hundreds since Ellis' death. They pay a fine to the state and everyone moves on. CCS is likely to perform the same way, having the same CEO.

It is only Ashley Ellis was a pretty and young woman and her crime a misdemeanor car accident where she was neither speeding nor intoxicated that this story resonates. There have been other deaths under PHS but the general public was not outraged. I have to wonder if there is enough outrage to have prison health services provided in a different manner. Given the population and the state budget deficit, probably not.
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Mon, Mar 8, 2010, 2:01 am EST

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I looked up these nurses' licenses and they are only LPNs, a credential made much clearer in a vtdigger.com article. Assessing conditions, particularly Ellis' deterioration to a point requiring hospitalization, and knowing about Pedialyte would have been way outside what an LPN would know.

The vtdigger.com article also made it clear that according to Defender General Matt Valerio, the Vermont Attorney General's office would lack the resources to take on a corporation.

Apparently, PHS has been sued before, and this corporation has found settling such lawsuits cheaper. The New York Times in 2005 described a case of a former nuclear scientist who died before completing his sentence for harassing his
ex-wife by stealing her skis. He too died for lack of medication, for Parkinson's in his case. His background is very different than Ashley Ellis', except for having a condition requiring medication. Yes, you too, can die in a prison run by Prison Health Services if you have anything wrong with you.

The surname of one nurse is also incorrect. It is "Hojaboom.'
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 11:27 pm EST

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I myself had to spend 60 hr. in St. albans to serve a sentence for DUI. The health care sysytem there is a joke. I called many times before to inform them of my intense claustrophobia issues and the medications I was on. They told me to bring my empty prescription bottles with me and they would make sure that I got the meds I needed. It took 9 hrs for me to be seen by the nurse there after experienceing extreme panic attacks throughout the whole 9 hrs. After meeting with the medical staff they decided to give me a different prescription less often then when I was taken at home not being in such a scary situation. They never gave the meds on time and would not listen or care to help anyone when they were in need anyways. This actually was after the death had already happened there. Not only was I frustrated by the medical staff but as was the gaurds who expresssed their frustrations about the nurses often. Yes I did commit a crime and did deserve to pay for my mistakes but to deny people their meds that are legally prescibed to them to me is inhuman and something needs to be done to make sure this doesnt continue because I do beleive this is something that is very easy to happen again if medical staff isnt held more accountable there.It isnt the prison system, it is the medical staff hired by the state that nneds to change and that needs to happen in a hurry before there are more deaths and lawsuits that are going to cost the state due to their incompetence,
-- Posted by Maureen Gould on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 11:26 pm EST

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Does a nurse have to pick up prescription medication for prison inmates? If so, how about the OTC product, Pedialyte, available at pharmacies and many grocery stores? Yes, as an institutionalized person, she would have had to had an order on her chart, but if the prescription potassium was so impossible to obtain, I do not understand, given the circumstances, why a guard or secretary could not have been sent out to get several bottles of Pedialyte. Each liter consumed contains 20 mEq of the critical potassium she needed, and would be a doable quantity to drink over the course of a day. (20 mEq daily for hypokalemia and 40-100 mEq daily for treatment of potassium depeletion. Source: Medscape)
-- Posted by Christina Colombe on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 10:28 pm EST

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Matt Smith - YOU are a scumbag!
-- Posted by Terry Ward on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 6:58 pm EST

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"Yeah, a private sector insurer that the STATE hired to provide health care. Your right she had no choice. The State of Vermont removed her choice."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. State = Evil. We get it.

So what would you rather have? No privatization at all... a complete state-run, public Big Government enterprise, which you also hate?

Which is it, Vermastitis? Honestly, I'd love to hear your answer to this one.
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 1:19 pm EST

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Is it possible that she had other things inside her vijayjay that she could have consumed that led to her death?
-- Posted by None None on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 1:08 pm EST

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let me tell you first hand, the penal system and the law.
first of all, just take a look at the report, this girl was
concealling illegal stash in her ******, and prior to her
arrest, there were numerous other violations, when does she
deal with her problems, never. now how much money has she
cost this time? I don't believe in an eye for an eye,
but the girl was killing herself slowly by her own hand.
and to blame a system, that is over worked, under paid
and HUMAN. surprise surprise. HUMAN, course they NEVER
MAKE MISTAKES, GOD FORBID. end of chaper, get on with your life.
-- Posted by CJM on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 1:02 pm EST

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"Your right she had no choice. The State of Vermont removed her choice.".......... Well, she did this to herself when she nearly killed someone and left them paralyzed.

Karma is a real Bi*tch!!!
-- Posted by Tom Fedele on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 11:55 am EST

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"a more appropriate comparison would be to a private sector health insurer who denies coverage when you need it. "

Yeah, a private sector insurer that the STATE hired to provide health care. Your right she had no choice. The State of Vermont removed her choice.
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 11:47 am EST

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"A state police report on the investigation into the death of Ashley Ellis includes revelations that lawyers for the private company that provided medical care in Vermont prisons instructed its employees not to talk to police."

This is the very reason that we have Grand Juries. If this case had been referred to a Grand Jury (either State or Federal), that Grand Jury would question each of these people (without their lawyer being present). If they refused to answer every question honestly, they would be declared in contempt and immediately jailed.

So, we have to ask: instead of blaming it on the lawyers, why didn't the Vermont State Police refer this case to a Grand Jury?
-- Posted by Michael in Vermont on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 10:28 am EST

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This has nothing to do with "state run health care". Because she was incarcerated, she had no choice or opportunity to get the care she needed.

Rather, a more appropriate comparison would be to a private sector health insurer who denies coverage when you need it.

The State should not incarcerate people such as Ashley that it is not prepared to take care of. All of those people who refuse to provide information should be indicted.
-- Posted by Ray Makul on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 9:20 am EST

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No More, within the twisted-pretzel logic you've employed to try to argue against "government run health care" (instead of "if the state ran the health care", which appears to be something TOTALLY different in your mind), you've just made a great case for hiring hundreds more state employees -- locals! -- to run the prisons themselves.

Would you like to try again, or is that your final answer?
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 9:12 am EST

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What is negligent homicide? What is obstruction of justice? Do our laws pertain to only to us poens now?
-- Posted by Roy Amsden on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 8:23 am EST

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This is a case of the state using a private company for COST SAVINGS. These jail/prison medical providers do it as the result of a LOW BID contract with the state. You get what you pay for, and this is the result. If the state ran the health care in this case, there would be someone to hold accountable, and they would be local, not an out of state corporation. It really is a case of government run health care, and in this case the government picked someone to run it and they killed somebody. No oversight by the state is the biggest failing in this case.
-- Posted by No More on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 8:23 am EST

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"Welcome to state run healthcare"? This was a PRIVATE prison company, you agenda-addled morons!
-- Posted by Son Of That Guy on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 8:00 am EST

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Yea remember people Vermont State Employees no matter which organization they belong to at any level are allowed to commit any type of crime and NOT have to pay for it ! Especially Murder like this. You ahve one Gov. Agency covering or kissing the one's butt so no harm comes to each other. I say Throw them all in JAIL see how they like it !!
-- Posted by Doug Wilson on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 7:47 am EST

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Yeah, ain't that the truth Jack..the only thing more frightening for working people than the State of Vermont incompetently administering everyone's health care is the State of Vermont hiring someone incompetent AND crooked to manage everyone's health care.
The State house needs a little treatment this November...a giant enema.
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 7:08 am EST

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Welcome to State run healthcare.
-- Posted by Jack Bauer on Sun, Mar 7, 2010, 6:16 am EST

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