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Vermont police use Taser on 58-year-old woman

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By Thatcher Moats
STAFF WRITER - Published: March 11, 2010

A Barre City police officer used a Taser to subdue a 58-year-old homeless woman in the parking lot of the Cumberland Farms on North Main Street on Wednesday morning after the woman allegedly refused to leave the property.

Police arrested the woman, Ann Osborn, on charges of unlawful trespass, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and attempted assault as a result of the confrontation, police said. Osborn was most recently living at the Good Samaritan Haven, a homeless shelter in Barre, according to Timothy Bombardier, Barre’s police chief.

Cpl. Henry Duhaime responded to a complaint at Cumberland Farms at 10:30 a.m. and was told by a store employee that Osborn had been “hanging around since early morning and they wanted her to leave the property,” according to a news release.

Police said that when they confronted Osborn she became argumentative and refused to leave the property. Bombardier said if a property owner asks someone to leave their property and the person does not comply, that person is “arrestable” for unlawful trespassing.

This is what happened in Osborn’s case, Bombardier said, and Duhaime informed her that she was under arrest.

But Osborne ignored Duhaime’s orders to put her hands behind her back, Bombardier said, and crossed her arms in front of her chest so he couldn’t handcuff her. At this point, Duhaime told Osborn that if she didn’t comply with his orders, he would shock her with the Taser, Bombardier said.

Osborn’s response to that, said police, was “give me a thrill.”

Duhaime attempted to use the Taser on her, but the probes were blocked by Osborn’s winter coat, so the Taser didn’t work, said police.

Osborn responded to this by laughing and saying “you got me,” bending forward and continuing to laugh, police said in a news release.

Duhaime then used the “drive stun capabilities” of the Taser, which required him to place the Taser directly on Osborn’s body as opposed to shooting the probes, Bombardier said.

This method worked after several attempts, Bombardier said, but the officer and Osborn ended up on the ground, and Osborn took a swing at Duhaime and missed, leading to the citation for attempted assault.

After being taken into custody, Osborn was examined by Barre City EMS staff, and at her own request she was taken to the Central Vermont Medical Center in Berlin, police said.
Osborn had no apparent injuries, the police news release said. Osborn was still at the hospital at 5:45 p.m. on Wednesday in stable condition, according to a nursing supervisor at the hospital.

Bombardier said based on his review of the incident, the use of the Taser was justified.
“On first review, I would say the Taser was appropriate in this case,” he said.

Bombardier said Duhaime did not try to grab Osborn with his hands and handcuff her before resorting to the Taser. But when a person is verbally and physically demonstrating that they are not going to comply with orders, it’s up to the officer to decide how they are going to get the person to comply, Bombardier said.

“You have to make a decision whether you want to go in hands-on and get in a scuffle — which is where the officers sustain the most injuries — or is the Taser appropriate in this case,” Bombardier said.

Once an officer decides to go “hands-on,” Bombardier said, the distance is eliminated between the officer and the person that the officer is trying to subdue. And that space is a “safety factor,” he said.

“We’re trying to avoid having our officers involved in physical alterations with individuals,” Bombardier said.

Bombardier said officers aren’t required to go “hands-on” before using the Taser.
“It really is a flip of the coin,” he said. “It’s the officer’s call as to what they’re going to use.”

This is the second time the Barre City Police Department has used a Taser since the officers started carrying them last year.







READER COMMENTS


I wonder sometimes what would happen if someone camped on the front lawn of some of these police bashing posters, and when the police came, they said to the homeowner, "they really aren't hurting anything, and i can't talk them into leaving...ill stop by tomorrow and see how its going."

If society as a whole creates an atmosphere where Law Enforcement can be defied with impunity, the end result will be anarchy mixed in with vigilantism.
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, 1:45 pm EST

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Hey Ned,
The woman was disorderly, refused to cooperate, AND she told the police officer to "Thrill me" when she was threatened with the taser. What is it that the puny little liberal mind doesn't understand? SHE GOT WHAT SHE ASKED FOR !!
-- Posted by Smart Thinking on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, 12:29 pm EST

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It's hard to judge this incident from just reading a police report which are purposely brief.
All anger begets is more anger. A true professional never let's a situation rise to anger if he/she wants to maintain control. Next time maybe both the cop and the lady will remember this in the future.
-- Posted by Shy Wreath on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 5:17 pm EST

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Okay, all you cop cheerleaders. Pick up your pom poms. Chant along with me:

"RA! RA!
Shish Boom Ba!
Zap that woman,
She ain't my Ma!"

It's one thing to support the cop's unfortunate actions. It's quite another to be flippant about it. "She got what she deserved" sounds unreasoned and immature.

Grow up. Oh, and you can put your pom-poms back down.
-- Posted by Ned Frost on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 4:37 pm EST

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Thumbs up S.T....
-- Posted by Mikie None on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 12:52 pm EST

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Sorry folks. She got exactly what she asked for. No More, Cops do have to take a hit from a taser before they can carry one. The 58 year old told the cop to "Thrill Me" and she got zapped. Tough $h!t.
-- Posted by Smart Thinking on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 12:05 pm EST

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Wow! I didn't know Name Change had a soft cuddly side. Nice. I never knew.

I expected something like "nuke the homeless" or something along those lines.
NC you old softie you

Too bad the homeless lady didn't have one of those million volt stun gun jobs you can buy on the internet for cheap. At least the cop might have got a taste of what he was dishing out.
-- Posted by Dr. Gonzo on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 9:44 am EST

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Northstar,

That is just really creepy.

Have you stopped taking your meds again?
-- Posted by steve Nunya on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 9:09 am EST

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She got exactly what she was asking for. She refused to leave private property. She had no right to stay after being asked to leave. She refused to cooperate with the police when approached. She provoked a confrontation. I'm pretty sure that cops don't go out looking to pick fights with middle aged women in parking lots.

If she has a mental problem take her in and treat her, If it is an attitude problem lock her up and protect the public.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 7:47 am EST

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Ned

I know you meant no insult and I am open minded,

The Police can give non arrested people rides, if they see a young child who is suspected to have runaway, do they arrest them, handcuff them and then haul them to jail or do they offer them a ride home and a simple conversation?

The tone of the delivery of the message is probably the most import factor in accomplishing cooperation from an individual.

If she was unresponsive, he could have had back up bring her the coffee, offered to her where she was and then sat down with her and try to be on her level for a few moments and then communicate.

Any parent knows full well, that if you want your kids to respond favorably, the threats need to be left out as well as the anger. You can gain far more ground with them, if you communicate with kindness and on their level. Try it, it is very simple and the outcomes are far more favorable.


Just look at these threads, whose posts are easier to respond to? If a person is cooperating, don't you get far more information delivered and less name calling and negative responses?

It is human nature to react like a mirror. Kindness breeds kindness and anger breeds anger.


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-- Posted by Name Change on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 4:47 am EST

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Name Change,

The only reason I used the word "naive" was because of various impracticalities or obstacles that could have been present during this encounter. For example, what are the chances the woman would have obliged the officer had he offered her a ride and a coffee? She seemed pretty obstinate from the start.

Or perhaps there are laws or codes of conduct which prohibit an officer from providing a ride to a non-arrested subject, and whom was the original source of the disorderly call. In other words, maybe those subjects are seen as potentially dangerous and either you arrest them or send them on their voluntary way.

I'm not saying that is the case. I'm just trying to be open-minded. We all know how much society has changed because of frivolous and frequent lawsuits. This type of approach by an LEO might no longer be the etiquette of the day.

But relax, I like your thinking and I thank you for including it here.
-- Posted by Ned Frost on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 9:18 pm EST

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You're right...I see it differently now...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 9:11 pm EST

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I have a couple of simple questions to ask you all.

How many of you say "Yes Sir or Yes mam"?

How many open doors for ladies?

How many of you hold the door open for others?

How many of you offer a greeting to people you pass on the sidewalks?

How many of you offer help with a lady to load her groceries or whatever?

How many of you offer assistance at all?

Then there is no wonder you expect no less from your Public Servants.


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-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:56 pm EST

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Mikie

Everything between this 58 year old lady and the cop was verbal. The choice of words and how they were spoken, dictated the outcome. There was a million better ways than to taser. Offering her a coffee or a hot meal, would have made more good PR than when he got doing it his way and the funds could have easily have been repaid by Police Funds. It is PR, learn a little about what PR, because RPD is being slammed here because they have forgotten what PR is. It is time we demand that again from all of our Public Servants. A smile and kind offer will go a lot further than a macho demand to move your a&& off of the property.

I am sure you all have seen the poster of the GI offering a Hersey bar to a kid and the smiles and the good PR that was earned by such a simple gesture. Times have not changed, people and their attitudes have.


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-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:45 pm EST

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Thank you, Ned. Very articulate.
Servants? Agents of the peoples will and intent?

To all Others,

It will never be my intent as a citizen to grant those that I entrust with my safety and protection and also the protection of all people's rights as free citizens to take the "easy way" out by placing injury to individuals that I share my community with below that of a single police officer or take the "easy way" out by placing injury to to individuals that I share my community below the legal liability of respecting their rights.
The police creed of "service" has fallen into a dark world where citizen neighbor helping citizen neighbor is lost and the lawyers with their calculations of financial liability too often determine our degree of humanity.
Have we evolved to a point in time when electrocuting an older person is the accepted meaning of "service"?
If these people are acting in your best interests then you make me ill.

Who is she? Does she have children? What happened to her yearbook? What was her most embarrassing moment and what was the most beautiful moment of her life? Does she believe in God? Why is she homeless?

Never mind... Tase her!!!
-- Posted by steve Nunya on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:42 pm EST

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Ned

I was dead serious.

Mikie none

If you were broke down along the edge of the interstate, who would you expect to stop and offer assistance? In Mass it is the Police. In Vermont, depending on the highway, it is the police.

I have seen police change tires for people, I have seen them help people and I have seen lasting impressions, by those officers on the people they helped.

Why is it now that the officers feel it is handcuff, manhandle, taser or shoot? What have we allowed our police to become? Look at RPD and tell me, is that what you want? or would you rather have it more like the way I explained.

I have known plenty of officers/troopers who would do it exactly as the way I explained. I judge police by comparing to the good cops, not the bad cops.

Being nice is not naive, accepting ignorance, aggression and rudeness is naive.


If they can't be decent to ALL of the people they represent, FIRE THEM and start over. When did we allow them to become PRI**s?

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-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:39 pm EST

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Ok Ned...Lets think outside the box...Similar situation but with a 20 year old male...You've made your first attempt to get them to go...they refuse....now it's unlawful trespass...Second attempt no good....They only laugh at you...Now think outside the box with this person....Defuse the situation...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:25 pm EST

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Name Change, I too like your post! Wouldn't the world be a better place if more people thought like that! Thank You!
-- Posted by crazy mama on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:18 pm EST

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Name Change,

Although it appears your thinking might be a bit naive, I like it a lot. It's a very thoughtful post. You are right, there was time long ago when cops were known as "peace officers." Unfortunately, those days are long over.

I would like to think the arresting officer at least thought of a more peaceful and tactful approach. I doubt it, though.

Mikie,

Cops are indeed public servants and there is no reason why considering the peaceful approach Name Change suggests would be unreasonable.

Too many cops want the easiest way out possible, all of the time, and rarely consider thinking creatively or outside the box. A law enforcement agent must think of his own safety only after the safety of his subject.

To do otherwise often leads to premature violence or violence that could have been avoided. If you think of your own safety first then you have no business being a cop.

Peace officers always thought of the subjects' safety first.
-- Posted by Ned Frost on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:03 pm EST

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Good call by the cop. Every time a cop gets injured in hand-to-hand combat, it costs the taxpayers 10s of thousands of dollars in workman's compensation.
-- Posted by Joe Bradley on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 7:57 pm EST

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He's not a one man escort service and taxi cab...Where should the line be drawn???...Hey man lets get a couple of beers and you can just give me the coke in the trunk of your car...No???...Please...???...Aww come on...Listen I'm trying to be nice here...How about diner???...A movie???...My treat...

Now obviously that is an extreme thought...But you add some punk lawyer in the mix reciting past practice...profiling and discrimination and I guess things are pretty much black and white...He obviously tried to give her some option....She didn't like it...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 7:30 pm EST

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I would like to know what the officers salary is because this is ridiculous. He couldn't handle an old lady? What I suspect is that he chose to take out his aggression and frustration on this individual. He was incompetent. We are paying him for shoddy work. He failed his station.
-- Posted by Jack on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 6:12 pm EST

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Have people just plain forgotten how to be nice?



You can lead a Bear with Honey better than you can with a whip.

How about something as simple as?

'Hey lady can I buy a coffee and give you a ride? We really can't stay here,. How about taking me up my offer for that coffee and then let's go see if we can find a place for you to stay?"

He is a Public Servant, why didn't he try service? People do not need to be handcuffed for trespassing. In my time, the only people that got handcuffed were people that showed signs of violence or people who were going to endanger you or themselves. This lady was showing no endangerment to anyone, the cop had an itchy Taser finger.

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-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 5:40 pm EST

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He apparently asked her to move on...She didn't...At which point a trespass law was broken...He told her she was going to be arrested...She resisted...He warned her that he was going to taze her...She taunted him still defiant...Finally he tazed her and everyone is shocked why???...He gave her three chances...Where did he go wrong???...Failure to say pretty please???...Get real...Nice job officer...
-- Posted by Mikie None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 5:16 pm EST

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This is a tough situation all the way around. I believe the cop exercised his best judgment and used a Taser, thinking it was the best solution for the problem. I don't believe Tasers are last resorts. Bullets are last resorts, and batons are secondary last resorts, and perhaps wrestling around with someone and trying to subdue them, when you have no idea how they will react, is a tertiary last resort. Tasers might be fourth.

My heart goes out to the poor woman. I can't help but to wonder if she was pondering what was the least thing she could have done to have been arrested and put in jail so that she could have a warm place to stay, and perhaps something to eat, for a night or two.

I'm afraid these incidences are only going to become more commonplace as the economy continues to tank, and the jobless and homeless rates go up. There are seven counties in California that have 20% unemployment rates. When you add in the long-time jobless cases whom have stopped looking, you might be looking at 1 out of every 3 adults out of work.

Many states are beginning to withhold their tax refunds until they can cover their costs. I believe much of these refunds will never be returned.

This country is in big trouble.
-- Posted by Ned Frost on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 5:15 pm EST

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And how did the police know she was "harmless"?

You think she could have access to a knife or sidearm? How would he know? When people like police or firefighters start making assumptions on the job, they greatly increase the chance they won't be going home at the end of the day.

She caused herself to be tazed, oh well. Maybe she'll think twice the next time...
-- Posted by Dave None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 2:38 pm EST

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I'm standing by the cops on this one! If anyone doesn't like it, go become a cop and you deal with these people who resist, fight, spit, etc. They have a job to do, but they are not paid to go be wrestlers and fighters because some person decided they wanted to break the law. If it was the homeless person camped out on your front porch that refused to leave, would you want the police to just pack up and leave? Lets not forget there are bad people out there that do want to hurt you.
-- Posted by Matt Smith on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 1:41 pm EST

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Hey Nunya...do you assume all homeless people are mentally ill??

Id be interested to know what you think a citizens duty is so far as obeying a law enforcement officer???
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 10:08 am EST

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Many of you refer to "the laws" and label this person a criminal. What happened to basic human decency?
It is a safe assumption given the "plot" of this story that the woman has some sort and some level of psychological illness. Is this how humans treat each other? Given the infinite amount of other ways this could have been resolved without assaulting the woman, I find it abhorrent that a "trained" police officer who is sworn to protect and serve all citizens uses what should be considered a last resort first.
The woman was not endangering anyone yet the officer chose to risk killing her to uphold the an interpretation of a statute.
I wonder at the mental process of a police officer who's psychological processes can find no better solution, no better approach than to risk someones life in such a pointless circumstance. He is trained and knows very well that his actions could result in her death. His brain acknowledges that possibility, his brain acknowledges that he will short circuit another person's central nervous system that has the potential to cause lifelong permanent injuries, his brain acknowledges that he will absolutely inflict incredible pain on another person.
Given all the other possible ways to resolve this situation, he chose to purposely and intentionally inflict that pain and risk causing the death of an elderly person who appeared to have a mental illness and yet was no threat to anyone. He chose to hurt this woman.
Is this how a government is supposed to treat it's citizens?
-- Posted by steve Nunya on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 10:00 am EST

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What about personal accountability?

The woman was asked to leave by the property owner and refuses. Then she refuses the police order to leave the property.

What if the woman was sitting on your front porch and refused to leave even though you ask her to?

It's your right as a property owner to ask her to leave and expect that she will.
-- Posted by Dave None on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:44 am EST

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I would think you people from Rutland would understand how cops operate better than most. It is happening every where not just in Rutland. Police State!!!
-- Posted by Snidlyey Wiplash on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 8:12 am EST

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"They know how to put your hands behind your back and cuff you."

Posted by Comfy Anon

No dirty talk, Comfy...this is a family forum. LOL
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 7:34 am EST

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Before tazers, generally, a cop would handcuff someone against their will by ..well, hancuffing them. This requires some physical effort and strength and does not have the satisfaction of a vindictive thrill that a tazer may have, but as a rule, it is as effective in most cases and it probably doesn't facilitate nearly as many law suits. Force is supposed to be the least amount possible to get the job done. All of the police officers that I have known have been trained in how to make an arrest in the least harmful way possible. They know how to put your hands behind your back and cuff you. They know how to subdue in ways that are less dangerous, traumatic and harmful than a tazer.
-- Posted by Comfy Anon on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 7:06 am EST

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Another little man wearing a big boy badge thinking he can do anything he wants.

Fire his a$$!
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 6:38 am EST

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Is anyone really surprised to read this? I am not.

All of the Law enforcements around the country have accepted the Taser as the item of choice.

Why talk when you can Taser? Why call for back up, when you can Taser?

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/tasers-potentially-lethal-and-easy-abuse-20081216

"16 December 2008
The call came as the organization released one of the most detailed reports to date on the safety of the stun gun. The report "USA Less than lethal?" is being published as the number of people who died after being struck by Tasers in the USA reached 334 between 2001 and August 2008. "
-- Posted by Name Change on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 5:32 am EST

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She was not threatening until she was harmed and her personal space was violated. Most people would react to protect themselves.

I think she was funny. Obviously he thought she was insulting him and wanted to hurt her.

So, another Cop's ego was bruised, because someone didn't JUMP on their command, and thought it was ok to use excessive force?

I thought the State of Vermont has already decided that Tasers would NOT be used in these situations?

Because of the deathrate, and long term side effects of being tased.

Have they already changed that? Or is it OK to continue use of this hardware on people who most likely cannot afford a lawyer to sue the state?
-- Posted by CF Reality on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 12:40 am EST

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LOL thanks for the chuckle Joyce.
-- Posted by John Smith on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 12:25 am EST

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Wayne Davis, Its called common scence. if a property owner or a representative of a property owner i.e. an employee advises somebody ( dirtbag or not ) to get off said property YOU DO IT. You dont argue, YOU LEAVE. If this woman would have used the graymatter between her eyes she would just have left the store. ( end of story ) she would have gone on her marry way. And that would have been the end of it. But she decieded to harrass the employee and ignore the employees demands to leave the property. And the cop did a bang up job. He did what he was supposed to do. Remove an unwanted subject from said property at the request of the businesses employee. If anybody is sprinkleing any crap around here its you Wayne. With your poor poor Ann, she was screwed by society B.S. Ann screwed her self. But lets face it. Its really Ann Osborn who made out better. She got to go to jail, a warm bed, and a meal for a lot cheaper than she would have to pay at Cumbys. You go girl.
-- Posted by John Smith on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 12:23 am EST

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She will be fine, I just got off the phone with the hospital, Wayne picked her up and they are going to Cumberland Farms for a late night snack. Everyone should thank Wayne for his kind heart and being there for her. I hope she's ok.
-- Posted by Joyce Winters on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 12:05 am EST

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HEY,YA'LL, EVER KNOWN A HOMELESS PERSON? LOTS OF THEM, AND NOT ALL ARE JUNKIES, OR ALCY'S, BUT MOST HAVE MENTAL ISSUES,
AND EITHER FAMILY HAS GIVEN UP ON HER, OR SHE HAS GIVEN UP
TRYING TO LIVE OTHERWISE. IN ANY CASE, THE COP WAS
JUSTIFIED. I HOPE SOMEONE WILL ATTEMPT TO CHANGE HER
CIRCUMSTANCES AND HELP HER.
-- Posted by CJM on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 10:52 pm EST

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If this article, rather than being about a deranged 58 year old trespassing bag, was about... pick one (Bush supporter, anti-abortionist, one-man-one woman marriage supporter, conservative, GOP voter, NASCAR watching Walmart shopper or basically any white male middle class taxpaying citizen) getting tazed, all the pacifist illiberals would be suggesting not only was the taser use justified, but not severe enough. Friggin' hypocrits!
-- Posted by Allen Kuusela on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 10:09 pm EST

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You'd both be welcome Wayne, but i would insist you wash your hands.
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 8:03 pm EST

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vermontis thats what i would exspect, no deep thought involved with that comeback.
everything is just black and white its legal or its not and that is what makes it ok.
glad your just another couch potato with a p.c. hay i know lets go online and sprinkle some crap into eveyones life. if that had been you and it could just as easly have been would you be good with that comeback? FLEAS and ticks, only a handfull of folks on here that say anything the rest of you are just background noise. tell you what the old lady and i will come to your house next sunday for sup. ok see around 4 i.m.b.roflmao
-- Posted by Wayne Davis on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 7:58 pm EST

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If you disobey a legitimate order from a Law officer in Vermont, your breaking the law..if you resist arrest after you should expect to be forcibly arrested.

The taser is designed to replace the nightstick, not the Firearm.Is it pleasant? No. Is it better than getting smacked on the gourd with a 3 pound club of oak? Yes.

Should homeless people get a pass because of being homeless...nope. Wayne, if your so worried about this particular lady..have her move in with you.
-- Posted by * Vermontis on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 7:41 pm EST

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ok,well, hmmm. another one bites the dust ha ha and another one gone. good job officer keep up the good work and help move them there home-lesspeople on their way. when she gets out i wonder who will be there for her. 58 years old lived around this state all her life has no home and has no-one to turn too and all you fools can do is say good job to the cop. crap for all of you next xmas.******
-- Posted by Wayne Davis on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 6:58 pm EST

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And also another thing. In the REAL world people do have hep-c, HIV,and Aids. I cant blame the officer for using NON DEADLY force like the tazer to subdue this subject. she can spit, bite, and scratch. blunt trama like a fist to the face can also cause open wounds. And Im the guy who dosent mind getting dirty every once and a while but. sorry. Any way I can limit my risk from some disorderly, noncomplient, dirtbag. Im gonna take advantage of it. she knew she was going to ride the lightning. and she laughed instead of being a good girl, and leaving the property. to bad so sad. I dont feel sorry for her one bit. stupid is, as stupid does.
-- Posted by John Smith on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 5:06 pm EST

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Good for the cop. What's he supposed to do, say pretty please. He asked her to leave, she wouldn't He told her she was under arrest and to comply, she didn't. He warned her that he would have to taz her. She told him to go ahead, so he complied. I'd say the cop was very cooperative. I suppose he could've given her a crack over the head with his baton. Maybe it would have knocked some sense into her.

I'll bet the ambulance chasers are lined up at her cell of hospital room looking to sue the cop, the city, the state, Cumberland Farms, the manufacturer of the stun gun.
-- Posted by northstar62 on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 4:12 pm EST

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Ok, here come the armchair quarterbacks.

Do us all a favor and step away from the keyboards....

Jeese.
-- Posted by Dave None on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 4:01 pm EST

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Maybe she was sick and tired of being told that she has no right to exist.
-- Posted by Comfy Anon on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 4:00 pm EST

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Yepper, she laughed at him so by golly, he was within his authority to tase her.
-- Posted by No More on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 3:36 pm EST

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Must be the cop was afraid of her because I can't imagine how a well trained police officer can't control a 58 year old woman..
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-- Posted by NONENONE ONE on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 3:31 pm EST

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She wasn't injured by the Taser. If the officer had tried to physically subdue her she probably would have been. Or he would have been. She was obviously mentally unstable, drunk or high and going to fight back. The Taser was appropriate.
-- Posted by Angel None on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 3:29 pm EST

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What the cops don't understand that a Taser is to be used as a last resort so they don't need to shoot . A Taser is a deadly weapon under some circumstances, Iike when someone dies as a result of being tased. The Taser has made little kitty cats out of some police officers, those who have no clue as to how to be a real cop. Use the Taser only when the only other option is the use of deadly force. I guess if the cop didn't have the Taser, he would have shot her with his firearm?
-- Posted by No More on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 3:10 pm EST

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LOL I agree with you Born and raised in Vt. and so what if she's 58. a 58 year old can injure somebody as much as a 28 year old. Just becuase she qualifies for AARP dosent mean she's weak.
-- Posted by John Smith on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 12:40 pm EST

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Why is this even a story? So what, the cops arrested someone, is that front page news now? I hardly think using a taser on a 58 year old woman is the breakthrough story of the year. Maybe someone jaywalked in town too, you could always report on that. Jeesh.
-- Posted by Born and Raised in Vermont on Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 12:31 pm EST

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